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I've been hearing it since it was announced, and I've yet to see for myself, but I really am starting to agree that a lot of the disagreements with the design d

I've been hearing it since it was announced, and I've yet to see for myself, but I really am starting to agree that a lot of the disagreements with the design decisions of iOS7 will go away once people start using the OS. Of course, there are still elements that seem half-baked at best, but it's interesting to see how some of the interfaces really shine when it's your own information being displayed instead of screenshots of information you ignore. I'm actually excited to see how I adapt to the new changes once iOS7 come out. (Yes, I am a developer and could install the developer preview, but I only have one iOS device right now and no way am I installing a developer beta on my one device)

voxmatt 13y ago
I've been using the developer preview for a few months and can confirm that, at least for me, the disagreements start to fade pretty quickly. Not to say that their aren't still some problems, but that initial shock seems to be mostly that - just a shock. As for the iCloud Beta, I actually like this design approach more in the browser. I think the larger screen actually helps the thin font choices and lines feel more appropriate.
- mitchty 13y ago
  Also agree, ios 7 is really nice when in use. Static images don't quite do the "feel" differences in how you interact. That said, i also am in love with Helvetica Neue now. Was a bit so-so initially but it actually grows on you.
  - glhaynes 13y ago
    It literally grew on users when they dropped the "Ultralight" from Helvetica Neue Ultralight (3rd beta).
    - mitchty 13y ago
      True enough, I didn't install ios7 on my main phone until beta4/5 so any use prior was mostly on an old 4s just to see if things compiled/ran.
    - micampe 13y ago
      It's a widespread misconception, but it's never been ultralight. Screenshot from beta 1: http://cl.ly/PhA6 http://cl.ly/PhA6
      - radley 13y ago
        See the number in the calendar app? That's Ultralight. http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/14/4621422/beta-icloud-website-overhauled-with-ios-7-design http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/14/4621422/beta-icloud-websit...
        micampe 13y ago
        Sure, but that's also not the system font.
woj 13y ago
I've been using iOS7 since Beta 2, and I still hate it. I don't like the look, but this might be personal. So putting this aside, to me iOS7 is actually harder to use. The flat buttons (which are just labels now) are harder to press. I do not know if this is psychological since they appear smaller, or is it that the target area is actually smaller now. Toggles are grayed out in their off state, so they appear disabled, as in "you are not supposed to be pressing it now" (see Speaker control in the Voice Memos app). There are also a lot of other things they changed during the redesign for worse from my perspective. For example: in the Voice Memos app I used to be able to record and play back a sequence quickly. Now * I stop recording a sample * Press Done * Am forced to label it (why!!) * Expand the memo I just recorded (why is it collapsed - I am still working on it) * Hit play I record 20+ samples a day I need to listen to quickly, and this is so frustrating. There are other things like this throughout the OS. In calendar for example you can't expand the Notes on the meeting, so god forbid someone puts important meeting information there. It seems to me like people at Apple actually stopped using their phones. These little things scream at you once you actually try to get something done.
- martingordon 13y ago
  I had issues with the controls that appear during a phone call. I've been an iPhone user since day 1, but the borderless buttons made me hesitate and hunt around for the button I actually wanted to press. Apple fixed this in Beta 4 or 5 and I feel much better about it. I still find the Repeat/Shuffle buttons confusing in Music.app and I hope they gets fixed before GM.
crizzo 13y ago
They disagreements do go away. When I go back to iOS 6 I feel like I have went back in time 5 years.

voxmatt 13y ago

I've been using the developer preview for a few months and can confirm that, at least for me, the disagreements start to fade pretty quickly. Not to say that their aren't still some problems, but that initial shock seems to be mostly that - just a shock. As for the iCloud Beta, I actually like this design approach more in the browser. I think the larger screen actually helps the thin font choices and lines feel more appropriate.

mitchty 13y ago
Also agree, ios 7 is really nice when in use. Static images don't quite do the "feel" differences in how you interact. That said, i also am in love with Helvetica Neue now. Was a bit so-so initially but it actually grows on you.
- glhaynes 13y ago
  It literally grew on users when they dropped the "Ultralight" from Helvetica Neue Ultralight (3rd beta).
  - mitchty 13y ago
    True enough, I didn't install ios7 on my main phone until beta4/5 so any use prior was mostly on an old 4s just to see if things compiled/ran.
  - micampe 13y ago
    It's a widespread misconception, but it's never been ultralight. Screenshot from beta 1: http://cl.ly/PhA6 http://cl.ly/PhA6
    - radley 13y ago
      See the number in the calendar app? That's Ultralight. http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/14/4621422/beta-icloud-website-overhauled-with-ios-7-design http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/14/4621422/beta-icloud-websit...
      - micampe 13y ago
        Sure, but that's also not the system font.

woj 13y ago

I've been using iOS7 since Beta 2, and I still hate it. I don't like the look, but this might be personal. So putting this aside, to me iOS7 is actually harder to use. The flat buttons (which are just labels now) are harder to press. I do not know if this is psychological since they appear smaller, or is it that the target area is actually smaller now. Toggles are grayed out in their off state, so they appear disabled, as in "you are not supposed to be pressing it now" (see Speaker control in the Voice Memos app). There are also a lot of other things they changed during the redesign for worse from my perspective. For example: in the Voice Memos app I used to be able to record and play back a sequence quickly. Now * I stop recording a sample * Press Done * Am forced to label it (why!!) * Expand the memo I just recorded (why is it collapsed - I am still working on it) * Hit play I record 20+ samples a day I need to listen to quickly, and this is so frustrating. There are other things like this throughout the OS. In calendar for example you can't expand the Notes on the meeting, so god forbid someone puts important meeting information there. It seems to me like people at Apple actually stopped using their phones. These little things scream at you once you actually try to get something done.

martingordon 13y ago
I had issues with the controls that appear during a phone call. I've been an iPhone user since day 1, but the borderless buttons made me hesitate and hunt around for the button I actually wanted to press. Apple fixed this in Beta 4 or 5 and I feel much better about it. I still find the Repeat/Shuffle buttons confusing in Music.app and I hope they gets fixed before GM.

crizzo 13y ago

They disagreements do go away. When I go back to iOS 6 I feel like I have went back in time 5 years.