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That has to be the most ridiculous statement - especially since you claim to come from the subcontinent yourself. Every country has its share of problems and cu

That has to be the most ridiculous statement - especially since you claim to come from the subcontinent yourself. Every country has its share of problems and cultural differences - but you're looking at it from a very pessimistic and negative perspective. Germany and any other country can put in measures to ensure the kind of people do immigrate are also ones that would fit into their societies. They don't need to haul them over in boatfulls.

rayiner 13y ago
For immigration to serve as a counterweight to declining birth rates, you do need to haul people over in boatfulls. And its a modern classist conceit that the virtues of western culture come from education and wealth rather than socialization and upbringing. There are plenty of educated wealthy middle easterners who cover their daughters faces in public and believe its morally acceptable.
- kamakazizuru 13y ago
  Actually - in a number of those countries its legally required for them to be covered. The point is different - you can't use an extreme example of a hijab to claim that western values are uniquely good - and those coming from eastern countries only create a negative cultural impact. If you understood the point of the article - the goal isn't to increase the birth rate. The goal is to make sure the population doesn't fall to a level where it will not be able to sustain the social structures that exist. This can be countered by controlled highly skilled immigration and is working perfectly fine in Canada and New Zealand among other places. For what its worth though - of all people you should probably be glad not everyone thought that people from the east should stay where they are - otherwise you with all your extreme views on this would've still been stuck in your walled garden in India. Driving around in your foreign car. What an unfortunate existence!

rayiner 13y ago

For immigration to serve as a counterweight to declining birth rates, you do need to haul people over in boatfulls. And its a modern classist conceit that the virtues of western culture come from education and wealth rather than socialization and upbringing. There are plenty of educated wealthy middle easterners who cover their daughters faces in public and believe its morally acceptable.

kamakazizuru 13y ago
Actually - in a number of those countries its legally required for them to be covered. The point is different - you can't use an extreme example of a hijab to claim that western values are uniquely good - and those coming from eastern countries only create a negative cultural impact. If you understood the point of the article - the goal isn't to increase the birth rate. The goal is to make sure the population doesn't fall to a level where it will not be able to sustain the social structures that exist. This can be countered by controlled highly skilled immigration and is working perfectly fine in Canada and New Zealand among other places. For what its worth though - of all people you should probably be glad not everyone thought that people from the east should stay where they are - otherwise you with all your extreme views on this would've still been stuck in your walled garden in India. Driving around in your foreign car. What an unfortunate existence!