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Yeah, well, it doesn't do much good in 2009 if you are on Windows (or if you have to use Windows at work). I used ThinkTank and More all the time in the 1980s (

by rman666 17y ago

Yeah, well, it doesn't do much good in 2009 if you are on Windows (or if you have to use Windows at work). I used ThinkTank and More all the time in the 1980s (yes, I used a Mac back then - and I still do now at home at times). Now, I'd love to use an outliner like OmniOutliner (true outliner with multiple columns), but there isn't anything I can find (by the way, I want it as a desktop app, not on the web, sorry). It's a shame because my brain thinks in hierarchies a lot. It seems so strange that there are many good outliners for Mac, but none for Windows. Why is that?

raganwald 17y ago
MS Word has an outlining mode, and since it dominates the Windows ecosystem, there's very little economic incentive to build a world-class dedicated outliner. I still love MORE as well :-)
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scotch_drinker 17y ago
I've used ActionOutline and it seems to be pretty good though I'm certainly no expert. It's a desktop app for Windows.
- misuba 17y ago
  Is there an option to hide the panel on the right? I prefer the classic single-pane style. (Warning to devs: outliner users are finicky, finicky bastards.)
jerf 17y ago
Dave Winer's later creation, Frontier, has been open sourced: http://frontierkernel.org/ http://frontierkernel.org/ It works, but I wouldn't try to edit code with it. Other than its built-in language, which is actually sort of fun, but a dead-end technology now. (Still, being a language built for an outliner has interesting consequences.) I've been working on a Frontier-descended outliner for a long time (really just the outliner, not the whole stack that Frontier represents), but up until recently, open-source toolkits couldn't do a slick outliner as the text widgets were too weak. Now I lack time to finish it, but I'm still cranking away in my spare time. (To crap something out is easy; to make a useful outliner is a harder problem that it appears.)
wmf 17y ago
Try http://editor.opml.org/ http://editor.opml.org/

by rman666 17y ago

raganwald 17y ago

MS Word has an outlining mode, and since it dominates the Windows ecosystem, there's very little economic incentive to build a world-class dedicated outliner. I still love MORE as well :-)

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scotch_drinker 17y ago

I've used ActionOutline and it seems to be pretty good though I'm certainly no expert. It's a desktop app for Windows.

misuba 17y ago
Is there an option to hide the panel on the right? I prefer the classic single-pane style. (Warning to devs: outliner users are finicky, finicky bastards.)

jerf 17y ago

Dave Winer's later creation, Frontier, has been open sourced: http://frontierkernel.org/ http://frontierkernel.org/ It works, but I wouldn't try to edit code with it. Other than its built-in language, which is actually sort of fun, but a dead-end technology now. (Still, being a language built for an outliner has interesting consequences.) I've been working on a Frontier-descended outliner for a long time (really just the outliner, not the whole stack that Frontier represents), but up until recently, open-source toolkits couldn't do a slick outliner as the text widgets were too weak. Now I lack time to finish it, but I'm still cranking away in my spare time. (To crap something out is easy; to make a useful outliner is a harder problem that it appears.)

wmf 17y ago

Try http://editor.opml.org/ http://editor.opml.org/