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I realize that the mature response would be to shake my finger and say "tsk tsk, bad 4chan", but I actually think that, as a prank, this is pretty funny: unexpe
by alex_c 17y ago
I realize that the mature response would be to shake my finger and say "tsk tsk, bad 4chan", but I actually think that, as a prank, this is pretty funny: unexpected, baffling even, but doesn't really hurt anyone or leave long-lasting consequences.
Yes, long term something like this would make YouTube unusable, and would certainly do significant harm to the company, even if to no one else.
And yes, I'm aware that plenty of people do consider such content potentially harmful, but I'd like to see any studies to this effect. My personal view is that (North American?) society is strangely prudish about porn (which isn't going anywhere - why stick your head in the sand) while being remarkably comfortable with violence. This is why I say that, in my view, this prank doesn't actually hurt anyone.
Anyway, I'm sure this will be controversial, and that there are aspects I'm not thinking of. Overall though - funny prank.
- nostrademons 17y agoI would be tempted to agree, except that I know somewhere there's a ConOps person who has to remove all that porn. And given that ConOps always has more to do than time to do it, this is probably in addition to all the other stuff her regular job requires. Remember that there's a person behind all those abuse complaints - somebody just had a very rough day. It's like how I always thought it was fine to scrape big companies' websites, until I'm the one that has to carry the pager. It's all fun and games until someone loses a weekend. (I really shouldn't complain though, considering that I dragged spez into fixing an XSRF vulnerability in Reddit on a Sunday morning by exploiting it in a very public manner. If there's a God in charge of overseeing nefarious hijinks on websites, I think I've got more karmic retribution coming.)
- Jakob 17y agoI’d like to know if the "flag" function works out for this. Since it’s a community, and a big one, there shouldn’t be one who looses a weekend but the community which solves this by itself. They should (temporarily?) disable the need to register to be able to flag a video.
- nostrademons 17y agoI would imagine that there's some sort of manual oversight to flagging things - otherwise, wouldn't 4chan just start an uproar by massive flagging of popular videos? I could be totally wrong though - I'm not really familiar with YouTube, and it'd be just like Google to automate something like this.
- icey 17y agoPart of their "operation" is that they are flagging tons of popular videos that have nothing wrong with them.
- alex_c 17y agoOr you can look at it this way - if no one ever uploaded porn to YouTube, that ConOps person wouldn't have a job. :p OK, OK, that falls just short of saying crime is OK because it keeps cops employed. But realistically, if there's any outrage over this, it won't be because a couple of YouTube employees had a bad day.
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- trapper 17y agoI think it's pretty funny as well, but my 5yo won't be using youtube for a while until I'm sure it's mostly clear!
- cstejerean 17y agoSomething about a 5yo using YouTube at all just seems strange to me. Do parents really allow their young children to do that?
- LogicHoleFlaw 17y agoThink of the kittens! There is some truly adorable and precious content on YouTube which is totally appropriate for small children.
- ars 17y agoBecause sex is a private activity, and violence is public. So one is OK to show (public), and the other is not (it's private). Because all kids experience violence, perhaps not at the same level as a tv show, but they experience it. Sex on the other hand is not that way. And related to above kids may not experience, but they do see "stronger" levels of violence in the world - because it's public. Again, not so with sex.
- moe 17y agoSorry, that's just wrong on so many levels - I hope you're just playing devil's advocate here?
- cousin_it 17y agomoe, I don't see you arguing against ars's thesis in any way except insinuating about the motives that led to his/her words. I have just downvoted you and upvoted him/her specifically to discourage this style of argument.
- ggruschow 17y agoI think this is the proper argument: ars is saying society's view makes sense "Because sex is a private activity, and violence is public." The public/private split, if it were true, would be due to said society's views. That's circular reasoning. Also, the split isn't valid. It'd be great if privacy wholly prevented violence. That's not much fun though... I prefer funny: Taking life? OK! Making life? Oh No!
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- stcredzero 17y agoWaking Life? Interesting idea, Ok movie.
- moe 17y ago