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No upvote from me... tired of seeing articles like this. You're too busy to actually tell us what it is.. but you're not too busy to tweet, debunk others theori

No upvote from me... tired of seeing articles like this. You're too busy to actually tell us what it is.. but you're not too busy to tweet, debunk others theories, or give comments teasing people with small details. I'm worn out.. don't care anymore. You keep it.

dm2 13y ago
Agreed about tired of hearing speculation but he has only mentioned it a handful of times and said he would publish a paper/plans in August of this year (now). It's pretty amazing that a vague futuristic concept can generate so much publicity.
- sravfeyn 13y ago
  It's not just a vague futuristic concept, it's 'a vague futuristic concept of a genius engineer'. There are so many other concepts that don't generate publicity like this.
- AlexDanger 13y ago
  Remember how the Segway was going to be bigger than the internet? That said, I think the hype bubble for the HLoop has a small radius. Very much concentrated in tech circles. None of my non-tech friends (we fondly refer to them as normies) have heard about the Hyperloop.
  - hobs 13y ago
    Exactly. Even my intelligent but not super nerdy friends had no idea what the hyperloop was when I mentioned it, Elon is not a name they know, and Tesla barely rings a bell.
    - nonchalance 13y ago
      The finance community, on the other hand, is very aware of Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) and Musk
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cryptoz 13y ago
You should have a little bit more patience. Today is the day - August 12 - when all the plans will be made public and open sourced. Citation: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/356776740409974785 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/356776740409974785
- rgbrenner 13y ago
  Thanks for the actual date.. That would have been a great detail to put in the article.
  - brbcoding 13y ago
    Just tweeted that they pulled an allnighter and will be publishing a link @ 1:30PDT https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/366964441159438337 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/366964441159438337
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alan_cx 13y ago
I know what you mean. Perhaps HN agrees. I submitted an article describing what this is and it got no where. Weird though, because any criticism of Musk usually gets karma slaughtered.
- kbenson 13y ago
  Voting based on opinion does little except consolidate the prevailing theory. I'm a big believer in voting based on the merits of the argument, not whether I believe in the conclusion. Well reasoned arguments I disagree with deserve a response if none present cover my objections, otherwise an up-vote of the response I agree with most. It would be interesting if there were a bunch of HN clones for different topics around, with open data. I would love to see some analysis of voting trends based on topics over time, identifying "darling" topics and how criticism of them is treated, and if it's any different in any other communities. HN users often espouse that this is a place of more rational discourse (or that is was, which is a common meme). It would be interesting to see whether this actually bears any truth, which is a goal I think any rational person could get behind.
ohwp 13y ago
This is why I think upvoting on the HN front page is not a good idea. People upvote before they even read the article (if they read it at all). I just opened the comments to see yours and know there is no need to read the article and to upvote the story. Edit: asked PG about this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6199254 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6199254 Maybe other people have good suggestions as well.

dm2 13y ago

Agreed about tired of hearing speculation but he has only mentioned it a handful of times and said he would publish a paper/plans in August of this year (now). It's pretty amazing that a vague futuristic concept can generate so much publicity.

sravfeyn 13y ago
It's not just a vague futuristic concept, it's 'a vague futuristic concept of a genius engineer'. There are so many other concepts that don't generate publicity like this.
AlexDanger 13y ago
Remember how the Segway was going to be bigger than the internet? That said, I think the hype bubble for the HLoop has a small radius. Very much concentrated in tech circles. None of my non-tech friends (we fondly refer to them as normies) have heard about the Hyperloop.
- hobs 13y ago
  Exactly. Even my intelligent but not super nerdy friends had no idea what the hyperloop was when I mentioned it, Elon is not a name they know, and Tesla barely rings a bell.
  - nonchalance 13y ago
    The finance community, on the other hand, is very aware of Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) and Musk
    - deleted 13y ago
      [deleted]

cryptoz 13y ago

You should have a little bit more patience. Today is the day - August 12 - when all the plans will be made public and open sourced. Citation: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/356776740409974785 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/356776740409974785

rgbrenner 13y ago
Thanks for the actual date.. That would have been a great detail to put in the article.
- brbcoding 13y ago
  Just tweeted that they pulled an allnighter and will be publishing a link @ 1:30PDT https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/366964441159438337 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/366964441159438337
- deleted 13y ago
  [deleted]

alan_cx 13y ago

I know what you mean. Perhaps HN agrees. I submitted an article describing what this is and it got no where. Weird though, because any criticism of Musk usually gets karma slaughtered.

kbenson 13y ago
Voting based on opinion does little except consolidate the prevailing theory. I'm a big believer in voting based on the merits of the argument, not whether I believe in the conclusion. Well reasoned arguments I disagree with deserve a response if none present cover my objections, otherwise an up-vote of the response I agree with most. It would be interesting if there were a bunch of HN clones for different topics around, with open data. I would love to see some analysis of voting trends based on topics over time, identifying "darling" topics and how criticism of them is treated, and if it's any different in any other communities. HN users often espouse that this is a place of more rational discourse (or that is was, which is a common meme). It would be interesting to see whether this actually bears any truth, which is a goal I think any rational person could get behind.

ohwp 13y ago

This is why I think upvoting on the HN front page is not a good idea. People upvote before they even read the article (if they read it at all). I just opened the comments to see yours and know there is no need to read the article and to upvote the story. Edit: asked PG about this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6199254 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6199254 Maybe other people have good suggestions as well.