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Facebook knowing a lot about you is a problem. It is just an entirely separate problem that is only superficially similar to the problem of the government know

by Amadou 13y ago

Facebook knowing a lot about you is a problem. It is just an entirely separate problem that is only superficially similar to the problem of the government knowing a lot about you.

knowaveragejoe 13y ago
I think it's a bit more than superficially related - in a lot of cases, the only reason the government knows what it does about you is because you turned your personal information into bits and sent it to Facebook.
- narcissus 13y ago
  Except for when they do it without you even knowing your sending information to them. If you haven't heard of shadow profiles, then now is the time to learn about them. And don't get me wrong, I understand that I can do stuff to stop these things, but I don't see why I should have to, quite frankly. The point is that even if I have never visited Facebook, they more than likely know a lot about me already, unless explicitly going out of my way to stop it.
  - knowaveragejoe 13y ago
    > shadow profiles Which exist only due to the exact reason I described. > The point is that even if I have never visited Facebook, they more than likely know a lot about me already, unless explicitly going out of my way to stop it. Well, that's not what I was addressing. "Going out of your way to stop it" is simply becoming educated about what exactly it is we're doing when we use the Internet and societal institutions. Being prudent about what we enter into a form(either real or virtual) is key.
    - narcissus 13y ago
      > Which exist only due to the exact reason I described. I guess I presumed that when you said "you turned your personal information into bits and sent it to Facebook" you meant explicitly. > Being prudent about what we enter into a form(either real or virtual) is key I agree. But then again, when I need to go out of my way to make sure that all of those little 'Like' icons aren't telling Facebook the sites that I visited, just because my browser loaded them, I think that's a line. Because where you are being explicit about the form being real or virtual, you also should be explicit about who or what is 'entering' data into that form... and even what that form looks like (because a lot of the time, it's just a lot of parameters attached to an image request).
- ahallock 13y ago
  So it's the victim's fault? I don't understand what the point of your statement is.
  - knowaveragejoe 13y ago
    When bitching about social media enterprises knowing too much about our lives, yes.

by Amadou 13y ago

Facebook knowing a lot about you is a problem. It is just an entirely separate problem that is only superficially similar to the problem of the government knowing a lot about you.

knowaveragejoe 13y ago

I think it's a bit more than superficially related - in a lot of cases, the only reason the government knows what it does about you is because you turned your personal information into bits and sent it to Facebook.

narcissus 13y ago
Except for when they do it without you even knowing your sending information to them. If you haven't heard of shadow profiles, then now is the time to learn about them. And don't get me wrong, I understand that I can do stuff to stop these things, but I don't see why I should have to, quite frankly. The point is that even if I have never visited Facebook, they more than likely know a lot about me already, unless explicitly going out of my way to stop it.
- knowaveragejoe 13y ago
  > shadow profiles Which exist only due to the exact reason I described. > The point is that even if I have never visited Facebook, they more than likely know a lot about me already, unless explicitly going out of my way to stop it. Well, that's not what I was addressing. "Going out of your way to stop it" is simply becoming educated about what exactly it is we're doing when we use the Internet and societal institutions. Being prudent about what we enter into a form(either real or virtual) is key.
  - narcissus 13y ago
    > Which exist only due to the exact reason I described. I guess I presumed that when you said "you turned your personal information into bits and sent it to Facebook" you meant explicitly. > Being prudent about what we enter into a form(either real or virtual) is key I agree. But then again, when I need to go out of my way to make sure that all of those little 'Like' icons aren't telling Facebook the sites that I visited, just because my browser loaded them, I think that's a line. Because where you are being explicit about the form being real or virtual, you also should be explicit about who or what is 'entering' data into that form... and even what that form looks like (because a lot of the time, it's just a lot of parameters attached to an image request).
ahallock 13y ago
So it's the victim's fault? I don't understand what the point of your statement is.
- knowaveragejoe 13y ago
  When bitching about social media enterprises knowing too much about our lives, yes.