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No, I am not 'trolling' at all, I am just expressing my opinion and trying to provide some feedback about newsworthiness of the article and related HN post. You

by honzzz 13y ago

No, I am not 'trolling' at all, I am just expressing my opinion and trying to provide some feedback about newsworthiness of the article and related HN post. You might disagree with me but that does not make me a troll and I find the accusation highly offensive. And although aerodynamic drag is important part of cycling tactic, the goal of the sport of cycling (ideally) is to determine who is stronger, has more stamina etc. It is obvious that the speed could be increased by technical means like specially built cars serving as aerodynamic shields - but that is not what the sport is about, is it? That is also why this is not allowed in races and why I claim it is not valued by racers. You are comparing apples and oranges.

DougBTX 13y ago
> the goal of the sport of cycling (ideally) is to determine who is stronger, has more stamina etc An individual time trial works like that. Team events and races bring in more group dynamics, it isn't one man against the clock in most events.
- honzzz 13y ago
  This seems so obvious to me that I really do not understand how can anybody not see that. Is the difference between a man fighting with other men (where other men are obviously part of the race) and someone hiding behind the car not clear? Maybe it's because I used to race myself and I have been influenced by 'cycling ethics' - hiding behind the car was considered 'cowardly' and only tolerated under very special circumstances like when you had some technical difficulty so they had to give you reserve bike and now you are compensating your bad luck and getting back to the peloton drifting behind your team's car.
jasonlotito 13y ago
> newsworthiness of the article and related HN post. This is far more worth of HN than you give it credit for. In fact, it's exactly the type of post that should be featured here. Edit: This is far more worthwhile than yet another article on Snowden, that's for damn sure. > that does not make me a troll and I find the accusation highly offensive. Maybe you weren't trolling, but what did you think was going to happen when you posted what amounted to an anti-hacker comment on "Hacker News?" From your previous post: > is it really cool when anyone can do it Yes. In fact, it's much cooler when anyone can do it. That is practically one of the central tenets of the hacker culture.
- honzzz 13y ago
  Thank you for your comment. It certainly made me think. I am not sure I see this the same way that you do. But I do realize now that my comments might seem negative and I do not want that - I think I have said enough and I should stop now. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6194860 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6194860

by honzzz 13y ago

DougBTX 13y ago

> the goal of the sport of cycling (ideally) is to determine who is stronger, has more stamina etc An individual time trial works like that. Team events and races bring in more group dynamics, it isn't one man against the clock in most events.

honzzz 13y ago
This seems so obvious to me that I really do not understand how can anybody not see that. Is the difference between a man fighting with other men (where other men are obviously part of the race) and someone hiding behind the car not clear? Maybe it's because I used to race myself and I have been influenced by 'cycling ethics' - hiding behind the car was considered 'cowardly' and only tolerated under very special circumstances like when you had some technical difficulty so they had to give you reserve bike and now you are compensating your bad luck and getting back to the peloton drifting behind your team's car.

jasonlotito 13y ago

> newsworthiness of the article and related HN post. This is far more worth of HN than you give it credit for. In fact, it's exactly the type of post that should be featured here. Edit: This is far more worthwhile than yet another article on Snowden, that's for damn sure. > that does not make me a troll and I find the accusation highly offensive. Maybe you weren't trolling, but what did you think was going to happen when you posted what amounted to an anti-hacker comment on "Hacker News?" From your previous post: > is it really cool when anyone can do it Yes. In fact, it's much cooler when anyone can do it. That is practically one of the central tenets of the hacker culture.

honzzz 13y ago
Thank you for your comment. It certainly made me think. I am not sure I see this the same way that you do. But I do realize now that my comments might seem negative and I do not want that - I think I have said enough and I should stop now. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6194860 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6194860