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I'm curious... What trivial tasks are vim power users struggling with?

• chris_wot 13y ago
  None. He's talking out of his hat!
  • venus 13y ago
    Expose the current file in the side bar so you get a picture of its location in the dir tree? Install a package? Change the window size? I'm not talking out my hat at all. I notice no productivity improvements from using vim. Maybe some appear in different lines of work, but I'm not saying it just to annoy you. I don't notice Gentoo users being all that much more productive than Ubuntu users, either. It's basically a hobby to endlessly tweak your environment, and so is vim, IMO.
    • chris_wot 13y ago
      You don't notice any improvements... Great! But don't equate your lack of understanding with the fact that plenty of people are extremely productive with vim, and can do quite extraordinary things with it!
      • venus 13y ago
        Plenty of people are extremely productive using any number of tools. I like to think I am a rather productive programmer myself, despite my general dislike of vim. However, in the general case, I don't think it is much of an advantage in and of itself, which is why I disagreed with the poster above matter-of-fact stating: > Productivity is far greater with vim as if that was an indisputable fact. It is not. That was the thrust of my argument. And regardless of typing prowess, knowledge of sound, elegant design is the essence of good programming. How fast you can edit text is almost irrelevant in the long term. I know excellent programmers who basically type with two fingers, and shitty copy and paste hack programmers who do their damage at an amazing rate with vim. The two-finger typists make more than the vim wizards, and for good reason. Don't confuse the tools with the craft itself.
        • chris_wot 13y ago
          In that case I apologise, I didn't understand what you were saying. Ironically, I totally agree with you! Sorry about that.
          • venus 13y ago
            No worries, glad we agree :)
    • negatmx 13y ago
      1.-NERDTreeFind (Have it mapped to ,nf) 2.-Adding the package name to a file and typing BundleInstall 3.-Basic window management... (Have it mapped to Alt+hjkl) I know how to do all of these very easily from first week of serious usage. I'm using vim for less than a year and wouldn't call myself a "vim power user". I think it's a little bit adventurous to judge an editor that popular for that long time based on seemingly (seeing the use cases you said) limited personal experience.
      • dsrguru 13y ago
        Yup, see my reply to venus's more lengthy set of concerns. Oh well, I hope venus learns the Truth some day. ;)