I'm sure both of us understand that. It's just that we're talking from personal experience which in tptacek's case led to him asserting that the EU is a thoroug

I'm sure both of us understand that. It's just that we're talking from personal experience which in tptacek's case led to him asserting that the EU is a thoroughly "paper's please" region, whereas the US is simply catching up. In response to this I felt compelled to counter that notion as I believe it's not factual. If I was in a polemic mood I'd have asserted that where ever restrictions on freedom are introduced in Europe, it's because they're emulating the US in that regard, not the other way around.