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It's simple, easily understood across disciplines, and very powerful. Elements of a pretty well designed system. On the other hand, it's 2013 and we're still t

It's simple, easily understood across disciplines, and very powerful. Elements of a pretty well designed system. On the other hand, it's 2013 and we're still trying to figure out how to center one element inside another. In some ways, we are trying to apply desktop application design paradigms to something that started document or content oriented. Which is exactly the problem. Web development today is a Turing tar pit, because we're using tools that were originally created for very different purposes. HTML is great for static documents, and lousy for apps. Javascript is great for attaching dynamic behavior to widgets, and lousy for large-scale software projects. CSS is great for consolidating style information, and lousy for layout. Yes, after over a decade of hacking by many smart people we've built up elaborate frameworks that sort of do what we want most of the time, but I wish we could have had more appropriate tools in the first place and been able to spend those resources elsewhere.

peterhunt 13y ago
Agreed entirely that this is the problem today. However we did have that (Java applets), and they didn't take off. I think the web did hit a bit of a sweet spot at the time, but it's time for us to build new technology on top of it. Personally, it's looking like asmjs, inline styles and translate3d divs to me :)
hamburglar 13y ago
> On the other hand, it's 2013 and we're still trying to figure out how to center one element inside another. 100% this. CSS is a very powerful tool if you know its quirks very well, and there are a lot of quirks. I know a lot of incredibly talented developers who can pick up any programming language or technology in no time at all, but still occasionally waste half a day circle-jerking with CSS trying to make it do something incredibly simple like center one box in another or baseline-align a couple of pieces of text.

peterhunt 13y ago

Agreed entirely that this is the problem today. However we did have that (Java applets), and they didn't take off. I think the web did hit a bit of a sweet spot at the time, but it's time for us to build new technology on top of it. Personally, it's looking like asmjs, inline styles and translate3d divs to me :)

hamburglar 13y ago

> On the other hand, it's 2013 and we're still trying to figure out how to center one element inside another. 100% this. CSS is a very powerful tool if you know its quirks very well, and there are a lot of quirks. I know a lot of incredibly talented developers who can pick up any programming language or technology in no time at all, but still occasionally waste half a day circle-jerking with CSS trying to make it do something incredibly simple like center one box in another or baseline-align a couple of pieces of text.