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Better make it illegal so only criminals can feel the power.

coldtea 13y ago
Like in every other place of the Western world, where gun ownership is illegal (or very resticted), but murders by criminals are still way lower than anywhere in the US? I thought hackers were for science and understood numbers...
- thatswrong0 13y ago
  And I thought that "hackers" would not be so close-minded as to not consider any of the other factors that go into gun-homicide rate. I wish I could be so willfully ignorant. If you ignore gang-violence, for example, our gun-homicide rate is much closer to that of Switzerland. Have you looked at the difference in poverty levels between the places in the U.S. where the rate is the highest when you compared it to other Western countries? Have you considered the fact that we share a huge border with a country ridden with crime and violence which provides a steady supply of illegal weapons? Have you thought about the U.S.'s drug and social policies and their effects on gun-homicide rates? Have you noticed how the rate has been steadily dropping for the past decade? Have you looked at the ratio of the number of guns in the U.S. to the number of homicides and done the same with other countries? Have you looked at the rate of other violent crimes in the U.S. and other western countries? Have you considered the affects of cultural differences? Differences in demographics? Have you thought about what some unintended consequences of implementing strict gun control in the United States could be? I sincerely doubt it, or you would not say what you have said. If you truly are "for science" then you should understand that things are not nearly as simple as your political ideology dictates. You need to go beyond the simple, obvious correlation and try to look at all of the variables. And even if it were demonstrated to be the case that the higher rates of gun homicides are directly attributable to lax gun policies in the United States, I would still not be in favor of severely restricting gun ownership. And don't be so presumptuous to assume that this makes me any less a "hacker". It just means that I have beliefs and morals that are not derived directly from science and numbers. Why? If we should let science exclusively dictate our political policies, then we should outlaw drinking. And smoking. And driving. These all lead to a large number of deaths. We should also implement a government controlled diet throughout the entire populace to reduce the rates of obesity and malnutrition. We should also have a computer program which determines the jobs and wages of everyone in the United States so that we maximize productivity and minimize poverty. Would that be your utopia?

Like in every other place of the Western world, where gun ownership is illegal (or very resticted), but murders by criminals are still way lower than anywhere in the US? I thought hackers were for science and understood numbers...

thatswrong0 13y ago
And I thought that "hackers" would not be so close-minded as to not consider any of the other factors that go into gun-homicide rate. I wish I could be so willfully ignorant. If you ignore gang-violence, for example, our gun-homicide rate is much closer to that of Switzerland. Have you looked at the difference in poverty levels between the places in the U.S. where the rate is the highest when you compared it to other Western countries? Have you considered the fact that we share a huge border with a country ridden with crime and violence which provides a steady supply of illegal weapons? Have you thought about the U.S.'s drug and social policies and their effects on gun-homicide rates? Have you noticed how the rate has been steadily dropping for the past decade? Have you looked at the ratio of the number of guns in the U.S. to the number of homicides and done the same with other countries? Have you looked at the rate of other violent crimes in the U.S. and other western countries? Have you considered the affects of cultural differences? Differences in demographics? Have you thought about what some unintended consequences of implementing strict gun control in the United States could be? I sincerely doubt it, or you would not say what you have said. If you truly are "for science" then you should understand that things are not nearly as simple as your political ideology dictates. You need to go beyond the simple, obvious correlation and try to look at all of the variables. And even if it were demonstrated to be the case that the higher rates of gun homicides are directly attributable to lax gun policies in the United States, I would still not be in favor of severely restricting gun ownership. And don't be so presumptuous to assume that this makes me any less a "hacker". It just means that I have beliefs and morals that are not derived directly from science and numbers. Why? If we should let science exclusively dictate our political policies, then we should outlaw drinking. And smoking. And driving. These all lead to a large number of deaths. We should also implement a government controlled diet throughout the entire populace to reduce the rates of obesity and malnutrition. We should also have a computer program which determines the jobs and wages of everyone in the United States so that we maximize productivity and minimize poverty. Would that be your utopia?