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Snake oil. Election day is coming, the conservative idiots in charge want some good press. The german interpretation of e-Mail (de-Mail) is utter bullshit. Encr

by linohh 13y ago

Snake oil. Election day is coming, the conservative idiots in charge want some good press. The german interpretation of e-Mail (de-Mail) is utter bullshit. Encrypted e-Mail that is decrypted multiple times on its way, of course that will prevent the Government from reading my mail. NOT. It seems that there are enough idiots in the world who are willing to reelect that treacherous pile of smelly shit impersonating a federal government at the moment.

junto 13y ago
I don't see what a bunch of corporate entities have to do within election campaign. This is a response the the German publics concern that a foreign government is doing content analysis on emails within Germany. This makes it harder for the spooks down in Ramstein to analyse the traffic flowing between German consumers and German corporations, which is a damn good thing. This spying might also be (mis)used for corporate espionage as well. It isn't going to stop a German police warrant or BND investigation requiring these companies to hand over your emails, and the EU data retention polices are still in place, but it does stop the foreign spooks sticking their noses in where it isn't wanted. DE-MAIL, is as you say, bullshit, but that isn't why this is really about. I know that from my GMX account I can email someone on a Web.de account, and even if the Internet decides to route my email over the Atlantic first or through Frankfurt where I hazard a guess the NSA will be doing they optical splitting, it doesn't matter. If they want to read my emails they have to brute force that or have a copy of the keys. This is a small, but great step forward in my opinion.
- OGC 13y ago
  > I don't see what a bunch of corporate entities have to do within election campaign > I don't see what a bunch of corporate entities have to do within election campaign > I don't see what a bunch of corporate entities have to do within election campaign Read. that. again. Good god.
- darklajid 13y ago
  Maybe I'm missing something, but .. what do you think is _new_ about this 'made in Germany' mails here? Using TLS for smtp (which seems to be what you're referring to for the 'route over the Atlantic' thing)? Using TLS for submission/the client? Every respectable site and certainly every web mail client that isn't utterly broken offers https / TLS already. I see nothing but a stupid media campaign and fishing for scared and clueless end users that read about this in their favorite tabloid. A.k.a. the BILD/Computer BILD target crowd.

by linohh 13y ago

junto 13y ago

I don't see what a bunch of corporate entities have to do within election campaign. This is a response the the German publics concern that a foreign government is doing content analysis on emails within Germany. This makes it harder for the spooks down in Ramstein to analyse the traffic flowing between German consumers and German corporations, which is a damn good thing. This spying might also be (mis)used for corporate espionage as well. It isn't going to stop a German police warrant or BND investigation requiring these companies to hand over your emails, and the EU data retention polices are still in place, but it does stop the foreign spooks sticking their noses in where it isn't wanted. DE-MAIL, is as you say, bullshit, but that isn't why this is really about. I know that from my GMX account I can email someone on a Web.de account, and even if the Internet decides to route my email over the Atlantic first or through Frankfurt where I hazard a guess the NSA will be doing they optical splitting, it doesn't matter. If they want to read my emails they have to brute force that or have a copy of the keys. This is a small, but great step forward in my opinion.

OGC 13y ago
> I don't see what a bunch of corporate entities have to do within election campaign > I don't see what a bunch of corporate entities have to do within election campaign > I don't see what a bunch of corporate entities have to do within election campaign Read. that. again. Good god.
darklajid 13y ago
Maybe I'm missing something, but .. what do you think is _new_ about this 'made in Germany' mails here? Using TLS for smtp (which seems to be what you're referring to for the 'route over the Atlantic' thing)? Using TLS for submission/the client? Every respectable site and certainly every web mail client that isn't utterly broken offers https / TLS already. I see nothing but a stupid media campaign and fishing for scared and clueless end users that read about this in their favorite tabloid. A.k.a. the BILD/Computer BILD target crowd.