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Because two wrongs make a right? If you're a person with character, you handle the impropriety of others in a mature and professional way. Then again, if you'r

Because two wrongs make a right? If you're a person with character, you handle the impropriety of others in a mature and professional way. Then again, if you're a person with character, you don't refer to your business meetings as a "locker room" or use terms like "loserville."

jlgreco 13y ago
> you handle the impropriety of others in a mature and professional way. Sure, and sometimes the mature and professional way is to fire somebody. (Now, the execution of that was less than ideal, but a firing in general was not entirely out of line.)
- arkades 13y ago
  Execution and Result are not independent things. Firing someone in a professional, mature, tactful way is a different thing than what the CEO did. They're not just different styles: the firing of a person is an act intended to have a particular business outcome, and those different routes will have different outcomes. To quote Steven Brust, "The relationship between ends and means isn't one of justification, it's one of proscription."
  - jlgreco 13y ago
    I don't approve of the execution, but I cannot condemn the decision to fire.
- russelluresti 13y ago
  True. I don't take issue with the fact that he was fired, but, rather, with how it was done. No one should be fired without the opportunity to defend themselves or explain their actions. Being fired should also be a private matter, as studies have shown it's bad for morale which is bad for business. WHAT you do isn't the only thing that matters; HOW you do it is equally important.
jcc80 13y ago
Not sure who decides what's officially mature & professional but suspect it's a matter of opinion.
- russelluresti 13y ago
  In a way, yes. What is mature and professional behavior are decisions made by society. It's an opinion, but a consensus opinion of the society you participate in. All manner of behavior - that you shouldn't steal, that you shouldn't lie, that you shouldn't wear your trucker hat to a business meeting - are all just the opinions of society. Some are made into legal contracts while the rest remain social contracts, but that doesn't mean they're any less important or valid.
  - jcc80 13y ago
    "that doesn't mean they're any less important or valid." We'll just have to agree to disagree.

jlgreco 13y ago

> you handle the impropriety of others in a mature and professional way. Sure, and sometimes the mature and professional way is to fire somebody. (Now, the execution of that was less than ideal, but a firing in general was not entirely out of line.)

arkades 13y ago
Execution and Result are not independent things. Firing someone in a professional, mature, tactful way is a different thing than what the CEO did. They're not just different styles: the firing of a person is an act intended to have a particular business outcome, and those different routes will have different outcomes. To quote Steven Brust, "The relationship between ends and means isn't one of justification, it's one of proscription."
- jlgreco 13y ago
  I don't approve of the execution, but I cannot condemn the decision to fire.
russelluresti 13y ago
True. I don't take issue with the fact that he was fired, but, rather, with how it was done. No one should be fired without the opportunity to defend themselves or explain their actions. Being fired should also be a private matter, as studies have shown it's bad for morale which is bad for business. WHAT you do isn't the only thing that matters; HOW you do it is equally important.

jcc80 13y ago

Not sure who decides what's officially mature & professional but suspect it's a matter of opinion.

russelluresti 13y ago
In a way, yes. What is mature and professional behavior are decisions made by society. It's an opinion, but a consensus opinion of the society you participate in. All manner of behavior - that you shouldn't steal, that you shouldn't lie, that you shouldn't wear your trucker hat to a business meeting - are all just the opinions of society. Some are made into legal contracts while the rest remain social contracts, but that doesn't mean they're any less important or valid.
- jcc80 13y ago
  "that doesn't mean they're any less important or valid." We'll just have to agree to disagree.