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!!! warning - an extremly biased person above !!! "- ASP.NET MVC/C#: ..." 1) Microsoft came up with TypeScript recently which is truly open-source and will do

!!! warning - an extremly biased person above !!! "- ASP.NET MVC/C#: ..." 1) Microsoft came up with TypeScript recently which is truly open-source and will dominate Dart/CoffeeScript etc. over the time. 2) Microsoft is supporting SignalR which is truly open-source Pub-Sub and is a replacement for WCF. 3) Microsoft is supporting KnockOut.js which is truly open-source and one of the best MV(C/VM) frameworks today. 4) Microsoft invented _modern_ flat GUI style. 5) Visual Studio + ReSharper makes the most feature-rich IDE on the market. You don't have to buy Ultimate or even Premium - Express/Professional is good enough for most people. 6) If you mentioned Scala then mention F# as well. 7) Windows and Visual Studio will now be on much shorter release cycles. Old Microsoft != New Microsoft.

anonyfox 13y ago
yes, i am biased. 1) i'd say typescript will have its place, like coffeescript. usual MS behaviour: "oh there is something cool going on! We'll rewrite this stuff again in our ecosystem, instead of helping the original thing. Then we announce it as 'awesome new thing' with a cool buzzword!" 2) i ignore windows development currently (just as much as crossplatform toolkits need). i know there are many C# people out there, but i am just facing unix-ish based developers around me. so, i can't say something about this. 3) "is supporting". oh, great. And google supports angular. and facebook supports ... . not really an argument. Oh, and i know that microsofts actually pays some linux developers. many firms do. most of them with much less money than microsoft. (oh, when the current stock course ddrops further, this won't be true for future readers ^^) 4) As far as i know they hired a lead designer from apple to actually "invent" the design. Personally i like the tiles of windows 8, at least the spirit. What they made out of this ideas, well, not so much. 5. Who really needs IDEs? C# folks (and java'ish of course). It doesn't matter how good Visual Studio actually is (i know it is good or even the best, i have the ultimate's here), but efficient developing C# requires VS, and that is, in my opinion, a central design flaw of the language itself. 6. i didn't mentioned F# because i have no experience with it. 7. not an argument for a startup for developing their stuff in C# right away, seriously. Old microsoft: massive marketshares and influence. new microsoft: too little too late, fading away (PC drops, public windows 8 perception (!) is a desaster, Tablets and RT's don't sell, Phone marketshare is not enough, XBox one presentation desaster, stock price drops and drops, ...). i love discussions with other biased people :)

anonyfox 13y ago

yes, i am biased. 1) i'd say typescript will have its place, like coffeescript. usual MS behaviour: "oh there is something cool going on! We'll rewrite this stuff again in our ecosystem, instead of helping the original thing. Then we announce it as 'awesome new thing' with a cool buzzword!" 2) i ignore windows development currently (just as much as crossplatform toolkits need). i know there are many C# people out there, but i am just facing unix-ish based developers around me. so, i can't say something about this. 3) "is supporting". oh, great. And google supports angular. and facebook supports ... . not really an argument. Oh, and i know that microsofts actually pays some linux developers. many firms do. most of them with much less money than microsoft. (oh, when the current stock course ddrops further, this won't be true for future readers ^^) 4) As far as i know they hired a lead designer from apple to actually "invent" the design. Personally i like the tiles of windows 8, at least the spirit. What they made out of this ideas, well, not so much. 5. Who really needs IDEs? C# folks (and java'ish of course). It doesn't matter how good Visual Studio actually is (i know it is good or even the best, i have the ultimate's here), but efficient developing C# requires VS, and that is, in my opinion, a central design flaw of the language itself. 6. i didn't mentioned F# because i have no experience with it. 7. not an argument for a startup for developing their stuff in C# right away, seriously. Old microsoft: massive marketshares and influence. new microsoft: too little too late, fading away (PC drops, public windows 8 perception (!) is a desaster, Tablets and RT's don't sell, Phone marketshare is not enough, XBox one presentation desaster, stock price drops and drops, ...). i love discussions with other biased people :)