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Not saying Stallman is like Hitler but I honestly find his views such as "everything should be free (as in speech)" very hypocritical. At a conference I attende

Not saying Stallman is like Hitler but I honestly find his views such as "everything should be free (as in speech)" very hypocritical. At a conference I attended he also stated "artists and musicians should not expect money for their work" which I find is again very arrogant. Those pursuits also require effort and those people can determine how much they value what they create. I still think Stallman has provided a ton of value to the community, I just disagree with some of his views. He is still a good person.

chanux 13y ago
You started it as "On hiring developers" and quickly went on to a discussion about Stallman's views. Also from what I've understood you are not just criticizing Stallman's "request" to give back to the community but whole idea of sharing code. You are free to criticize anyone or anything but the Stallman part really did look like going off on a tangent. It's really easy to be an ass on the internet but I'm not attacking you or anything (Like one commenter probably thought I am). Just pointing out what I noticed.
- robziehl 13y ago
  No worries, no offence taken at all. I welcome all constructive criticism, more so than positive feedback so thanks! I know it was a tangent from the initial impression readers got from the title but it served as an analogy that people can blindly misuse beliefs just like they can blindly misuse tools. I am not a fan of name dropping and in that given example I admit I could have avoided mentioning Stallman looking back at the post and generalized it to free software advocates who try force their beliefs on others. Also want to add that I do not think all free software advocates force their beliefs on other developers. Criticism appreciated, like I said, no offence taken, I did not think you were attacking me.
  - belorn 13y ago
    Please avoid introducing classic flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say about them (see comment guidelines). Discussing Stallman and his opinion regarding culture is just treading the same old ground that has been done before.
    - robziehl 13y ago
      As mentioned already in this thread, in my initial comment on this thread in fact, I had no idea this post was even going to end up on HackerNews. I write independently without Hacker News in mind. I write for myself. Why would I have read the comment guidelines on Hacker News before writing a blog post that I had no intention of putting up on Hacker News in the first place? @chanux asked a question with regards to my blog post and I answered it with my justified opinion. It was hardly a mindless flamewar, in fact both of us ended up agreeing with each other as you can see by the comments and this tweet if you want further proof: https://twitter.com/chanux/status/366211657241862145 https://twitter.com/chanux/status/366211657241862145. I was not going to ignore a user who had a question about my blog post. I appreciate the Hacker News community's feedback and contributions but I do not feel that in this specific example I created an unhealthy discussion by mentioning Stallman. I have a lot of respect for his work as already stated and I accepted @chanux's constructive criticism wholeheartedly.

chanux 13y ago

You started it as "On hiring developers" and quickly went on to a discussion about Stallman's views. Also from what I've understood you are not just criticizing Stallman's "request" to give back to the community but whole idea of sharing code. You are free to criticize anyone or anything but the Stallman part really did look like going off on a tangent. It's really easy to be an ass on the internet but I'm not attacking you or anything (Like one commenter probably thought I am). Just pointing out what I noticed.

robziehl 13y ago
No worries, no offence taken at all. I welcome all constructive criticism, more so than positive feedback so thanks! I know it was a tangent from the initial impression readers got from the title but it served as an analogy that people can blindly misuse beliefs just like they can blindly misuse tools. I am not a fan of name dropping and in that given example I admit I could have avoided mentioning Stallman looking back at the post and generalized it to free software advocates who try force their beliefs on others. Also want to add that I do not think all free software advocates force their beliefs on other developers. Criticism appreciated, like I said, no offence taken, I did not think you were attacking me.
- belorn 13y ago
  Please avoid introducing classic flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say about them (see comment guidelines). Discussing Stallman and his opinion regarding culture is just treading the same old ground that has been done before.
  - robziehl 13y ago
    As mentioned already in this thread, in my initial comment on this thread in fact, I had no idea this post was even going to end up on HackerNews. I write independently without Hacker News in mind. I write for myself. Why would I have read the comment guidelines on Hacker News before writing a blog post that I had no intention of putting up on Hacker News in the first place? @chanux asked a question with regards to my blog post and I answered it with my justified opinion. It was hardly a mindless flamewar, in fact both of us ended up agreeing with each other as you can see by the comments and this tweet if you want further proof: https://twitter.com/chanux/status/366211657241862145 https://twitter.com/chanux/status/366211657241862145. I was not going to ignore a user who had a question about my blog post. I appreciate the Hacker News community's feedback and contributions but I do not feel that in this specific example I created an unhealthy discussion by mentioning Stallman. I have a lot of respect for his work as already stated and I accepted @chanux's constructive criticism wholeheartedly.