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A quickly hacked together map for crowdsourcing unsafe hosting countries

33 points by RyanZAG 13y ago

rexreed 13y ago
Looks good - can you explain the color coding?
wizard_2 13y ago
A good start, have you considered using geojson? Github has a native viewer for that.
- RyanZAG 13y ago
  The github native viewer doesn't seem to allow for setting color to countries - or at least I can't work out how. You'd need to host it outside of github with json to do it, I think, which puts it on par with the current map?
deerpig 13y ago
I hope this thread takes off. I would say that in the neighborhood of where I live: Thailand :: Not Safe (USA has massive infrastructure in the country, look for Voice of America radio stations which bristle with more sat dishes and antennas than BBC or CNN could use in their headquarters and you can guess what they really are Vietnam :: Not Safe Laos :: Not sure, but the Laos government is not terribly warm to the American government. However I expect that they are open to the Vietnam and Chinese governments. Either way, no place to host. Cambodia :: Not sure, their recent extradition of the Pirate Bay co-founder on trumped up visa issues was likely from a simple bribe paid to a government official. And anyway, services and infrastructure is still thin on the ground. There still isn't even one data center in the country that is independent of an ISP (I'm working to change that :) Myanmar :: No infrastructure and won't be safe from local snooping when it is, though I don't think they will share with the West either. Singapore :: Not safe. Malaysia :: Not Sure. Indonesia :: Note Sure. Hong Kong :: Was safe before the handover in 1997, I owned an ISP there at the time and there was no meddling that I could see. But it's a very different world now. I would tend to stay away.
lemming 13y ago
I think you should also make it clear in the readme that just hosting data in a better jurisdiction doesn't help in a lot of cases, since if the data owner or host lives in a different less friendly jurisdiction the law becomes almost impossibly complex.

33 points by RyanZAG 13y ago

rexreed 13y ago

Looks good - can you explain the color coding?

wizard_2 13y ago

A good start, have you considered using geojson? Github has a native viewer for that.

RyanZAG 13y ago
The github native viewer doesn't seem to allow for setting color to countries - or at least I can't work out how. You'd need to host it outside of github with json to do it, I think, which puts it on par with the current map?

deerpig 13y ago

I hope this thread takes off. I would say that in the neighborhood of where I live: Thailand :: Not Safe (USA has massive infrastructure in the country, look for Voice of America radio stations which bristle with more sat dishes and antennas than BBC or CNN could use in their headquarters and you can guess what they really are Vietnam :: Not Safe Laos :: Not sure, but the Laos government is not terribly warm to the American government. However I expect that they are open to the Vietnam and Chinese governments. Either way, no place to host. Cambodia :: Not sure, their recent extradition of the Pirate Bay co-founder on trumped up visa issues was likely from a simple bribe paid to a government official. And anyway, services and infrastructure is still thin on the ground. There still isn't even one data center in the country that is independent of an ISP (I'm working to change that :) Myanmar :: No infrastructure and won't be safe from local snooping when it is, though I don't think they will share with the West either. Singapore :: Not safe. Malaysia :: Not Sure. Indonesia :: Note Sure. Hong Kong :: Was safe before the handover in 1997, I owned an ISP there at the time and there was no meddling that I could see. But it's a very different world now. I would tend to stay away.

lemming 13y ago

I think you should also make it clear in the readme that just hosting data in a better jurisdiction doesn't help in a lot of cases, since if the data owner or host lives in a different less friendly jurisdiction the law becomes almost impossibly complex.