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Funny, I was just told a company could be charged with obstructing justice if they shut down in the face of NSA requests[1]. I too, obviously, believe Lavabit'

by drcube 13y ago

Funny, I was just told a company could be charged with obstructing justice if they shut down in the face of NSA requests[1]. I too, obviously, believe Lavabit's choice was noble and to be emulated. If every company did this, we'd all be vastly better off. [1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6104229 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6104229

davorak 13y ago
I asked in the referenced thread for any US precedence of forcing an innocent to work against their will. I do not know of any. If the courts, NSA, congress has been forcing innoscents to work against their will then it will greatly change my view/ understanding of the US government, the problems faced by the american people and the world.
- VladRussian2 13y ago
  >If the courts, NSA, congress has been forcing innoscents to work against their will basic subpoena forces one to provide the required info. With a little bit of a stretch we can see how a subpoena can be issued for the [future] clear texts that "your webpage" ( an applet downloaded as part of the web page ) will "contain" before sending encrypted version back to your server - in short it means forcing to implement backdoor.
  - davorak 13y ago
    > will "contain" before sending encrypted version back to your server - in short it means forcing to implement backdoor. Oh sure, definitely, that seems like that is within the scope of the currently claimed power. As far as I know though the operator has the option of closing up shop however and therefore is not being forced to work against their will, but not a fun choice though. I am interested in any case law that disallows the operator the option of shutting down rather then implement a back door or anything similar.
- larubbio 13y ago
  Would some of the issues around pharmacies being required to sell birth control or plan b medications fall into the same category?
  - commandar 13y ago
    I believe that's a completely different issue given that selling pharmaceuticals is highly regulated and requires licensing. To my knowledge, there also aren't any sanctions for a pharmacist choosing to quit rather than dispense medication as required.

by drcube 13y ago

davorak 13y ago

I asked in the referenced thread for any US precedence of forcing an innocent to work against their will. I do not know of any. If the courts, NSA, congress has been forcing innoscents to work against their will then it will greatly change my view/ understanding of the US government, the problems faced by the american people and the world.

VladRussian2 13y ago
>If the courts, NSA, congress has been forcing innoscents to work against their will basic subpoena forces one to provide the required info. With a little bit of a stretch we can see how a subpoena can be issued for the [future] clear texts that "your webpage" ( an applet downloaded as part of the web page ) will "contain" before sending encrypted version back to your server - in short it means forcing to implement backdoor.
- davorak 13y ago
  > will "contain" before sending encrypted version back to your server - in short it means forcing to implement backdoor. Oh sure, definitely, that seems like that is within the scope of the currently claimed power. As far as I know though the operator has the option of closing up shop however and therefore is not being forced to work against their will, but not a fun choice though. I am interested in any case law that disallows the operator the option of shutting down rather then implement a back door or anything similar.
larubbio 13y ago
Would some of the issues around pharmacies being required to sell birth control or plan b medications fall into the same category?
- commandar 13y ago
  I believe that's a completely different issue given that selling pharmaceuticals is highly regulated and requires licensing. To my knowledge, there also aren't any sanctions for a pharmacist choosing to quit rather than dispense medication as required.