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But that just speaks of a bigger problem, that of people who have children and buy houses they can't afford. Most people, minority or otherwise, can find a job

But that just speaks of a bigger problem, that of people who have children and buy houses they can't afford. Most people, minority or otherwise, can find a job if they had none of these ties they can't afford. I realize that's a simplistic view but I think that's what it boils down to. If people spent even just a few moments thinking about their own future and prospects they might decide against purchasing a home, having kids, getting a new car and so on.

salemh 13y ago
Determinate on said employee's skills being mobile across industries and companies, which may not be the norm outside of IT/software currently. "Why don't they just leave?" is not a valid argument.
- nickff 13y ago
  One should be aware of the risks of developing a dependence on a job which may become redundant, because of corporate layoffs or technological progress. One example of this is that if you were a biochemist who got a PhD in genome sequencing, machines put you out of a job. A consequence of reducing your long term career risk may be that you will have lower income (at least in the short term). You may believe that individuals have the right to maximize their short term income; but does this desire impose a responsibility on their employer not to fire the profit maximizing individual?
coldtea 13y ago
>But that just speaks of a bigger problem, that of people who have children and buy houses they can't afford. Most people, minority or otherwise, can find a job if they had none of these ties they can't afford. Sure, they can sacrifice all their lives -- including the American dream of their own family, home and car -- just to be better positioned with employers. No biggie.
- peacemaker 13y ago
  The American dream? Come on, that's a joke and has been for a long time now. I'm talking about realism. Besides, I'm not saying sacrifice anything... if they wish to have the family, home and car they should seriously think if they can afford it.

salemh 13y ago

Determinate on said employee's skills being mobile across industries and companies, which may not be the norm outside of IT/software currently. "Why don't they just leave?" is not a valid argument.

nickff 13y ago
One should be aware of the risks of developing a dependence on a job which may become redundant, because of corporate layoffs or technological progress. One example of this is that if you were a biochemist who got a PhD in genome sequencing, machines put you out of a job. A consequence of reducing your long term career risk may be that you will have lower income (at least in the short term). You may believe that individuals have the right to maximize their short term income; but does this desire impose a responsibility on their employer not to fire the profit maximizing individual?

coldtea 13y ago

>But that just speaks of a bigger problem, that of people who have children and buy houses they can't afford. Most people, minority or otherwise, can find a job if they had none of these ties they can't afford. Sure, they can sacrifice all their lives -- including the American dream of their own family, home and car -- just to be better positioned with employers. No biggie.

peacemaker 13y ago
The American dream? Come on, that's a joke and has been for a long time now. I'm talking about realism. Besides, I'm not saying sacrifice anything... if they wish to have the family, home and car they should seriously think if they can afford it.