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PHP Weekly – August 8, 2013

48 points by inovica 13y ago

ck2 13y ago
I always enjoy perusing these. Confusingly there is another PHP newsletter out there but I like both.
- petercooper 13y ago
  I can't help a little plug here, so if you fancy others on other technologies, check out https://cooperpress.com/ https://cooperpress.com/ ;-) I believe the other one you're mentioning is http://phpweekly.info/ http://phpweekly.info/ ? I don't think it has had an issue for a while though :-(
  - ck2 13y ago
    Well, end of May. I think they are traveling. There's room for both. Another good newsletter is Pingdom's weekly summary, but it's not php of course. We should probably have an "ask HN" for good weekly newsletters but I guess we can only read so much.
    - derefr 13y ago
      > We should probably have an "ask HN" for good weekly newsletters but I guess we can only read so much. Thought: what if there was a social news site, where instead of manually submitting links, the site was just itself subscribed to a set of feeds+newsletters, the links from which would get automatically dumped into the /new area for voting as soon as they're received? A democratic process on top of an editorial process, rather than a pure-democratic process. Might be something to try?
      - eksith 13y ago
        This is Google Reader, no? ;) I like the idea and it seems to be a public, vetted (courtesy of votes/comments), version of a feed reader. The only problem I see is if the content creators object if anything more than the title itself, and maybe a brief blurb, are included. Now that I think about it, it's also very similar to Google News.
    - joshuacc 13y ago
      As the creator of another weekly newsletter, I fully support this idea. ;-)
acomjean 13y ago
didn't mention the northeast php conference, coming up next week. Its in its 2nd year. http://www.northeastphp.org/ http://www.northeastphp.org/
- inovica 13y ago
  We'll pop it on Twitter for everyone. Shame we missed that - sorry. Feel free to contact us at any point about events etc
kbenson 13y ago
Interesting PHP rant[1] included in the roundup of articles, which is worth reading just for this gem: What this means is that if you are a PHP developer and not part of the problem, you are basically stuck in a world where you will struggle to find any decent reusable software that you can trust, or any decent developers to incorporate in your team. Sure, there are crappy programmers making use of other languages as well, but you can easily find good programmers for those, whereas in PHP the really good ones are like drops in an ocean of sulphuric acid - and like anyone in an ocean of sulphuric acid, they usually prefer to be somewhere else. [1]: http://www.borfast.com/blog/i-hate-php
- NinjaSaves 13y ago
  "PHP rant [1]" makes it seem as though there is an array of PHP rants, possibly containing the frequent complaints devs have about PHP and its occasionally poor implementation.
- camus 13y ago
  PHP is crap ,i use it everyday but come on , it is in 2013 , nobody is forcing no-one to use that . If you can use python,go,java or ruby go for it. The only thing that saves PHP is type hinting with methods and functions. Otherwise i prefer nodejs personnaly. I believe PHP can be saved , the maintainers just dont want to do it ( remove 90% of its crappy features , move APIs out of the core ,etc ... ).
  - Arnor 13y ago
    >I believe PHP can be saved , the maintainers just dont want to do it ( remove 90% of its crappy features , move APIs out of the core ,etc ... ). They've done a lot to improve it. Were you around in the PHP 4 days? They simply have their work cut out for them. There's too much gross in there!
- maratd 13y ago
  > whereas in PHP the really good ones are like drops in an ocean of sulphuric acid Which is a good thing. Once a client finds you, they will hold on to you for dear life. Why should I care about the level of difficulty of finding me, if that level of difficulty is in my favor? > and like anyone in an ocean of sulphuric acid, they usually prefer to be somewhere else. What? No. I like being in that ocean. I charge extra whenever I have to touch anyone else's code-base, because I know it'll be garbage. Is it fun cleaning up garbage? No. But it pays well and it is challenging. You don't know challenging until you forced yourself to think like a moron. And the thing is, the person who wrote it knows it's garbage too, so they'll never publish it. Quite a bit of the open-source stuff recently has been of high quality.

48 points by inovica 13y ago

ck2 13y ago

I always enjoy perusing these. Confusingly there is another PHP newsletter out there but I like both.

petercooper 13y ago
I can't help a little plug here, so if you fancy others on other technologies, check out https://cooperpress.com/ https://cooperpress.com/ ;-) I believe the other one you're mentioning is http://phpweekly.info/ http://phpweekly.info/ ? I don't think it has had an issue for a while though :-(
- ck2 13y ago
  Well, end of May. I think they are traveling. There's room for both. Another good newsletter is Pingdom's weekly summary, but it's not php of course. We should probably have an "ask HN" for good weekly newsletters but I guess we can only read so much.
  - derefr 13y ago
    > We should probably have an "ask HN" for good weekly newsletters but I guess we can only read so much. Thought: what if there was a social news site, where instead of manually submitting links, the site was just itself subscribed to a set of feeds+newsletters, the links from which would get automatically dumped into the /new area for voting as soon as they're received? A democratic process on top of an editorial process, rather than a pure-democratic process. Might be something to try?
    - eksith 13y ago
      This is Google Reader, no? ;) I like the idea and it seems to be a public, vetted (courtesy of votes/comments), version of a feed reader. The only problem I see is if the content creators object if anything more than the title itself, and maybe a brief blurb, are included. Now that I think about it, it's also very similar to Google News.
  - joshuacc 13y ago
    As the creator of another weekly newsletter, I fully support this idea. ;-)

acomjean 13y ago

didn't mention the northeast php conference, coming up next week. Its in its 2nd year. http://www.northeastphp.org/ http://www.northeastphp.org/

inovica 13y ago
We'll pop it on Twitter for everyone. Shame we missed that - sorry. Feel free to contact us at any point about events etc

kbenson 13y ago

Interesting PHP rant[1] included in the roundup of articles, which is worth reading just for this gem: What this means is that if you are a PHP developer and not part of the problem, you are basically stuck in a world where you will struggle to find any decent reusable software that you can trust, or any decent developers to incorporate in your team. Sure, there are crappy programmers making use of other languages as well, but you can easily find good programmers for those, whereas in PHP the really good ones are like drops in an ocean of sulphuric acid - and like anyone in an ocean of sulphuric acid, they usually prefer to be somewhere else. [1]: http://www.borfast.com/blog/i-hate-php

NinjaSaves 13y ago
"PHP rant [1]" makes it seem as though there is an array of PHP rants, possibly containing the frequent complaints devs have about PHP and its occasionally poor implementation.
camus 13y ago
PHP is crap ,i use it everyday but come on , it is in 2013 , nobody is forcing no-one to use that . If you can use python,go,java or ruby go for it. The only thing that saves PHP is type hinting with methods and functions. Otherwise i prefer nodejs personnaly. I believe PHP can be saved , the maintainers just dont want to do it ( remove 90% of its crappy features , move APIs out of the core ,etc ... ).
- Arnor 13y ago
  >I believe PHP can be saved , the maintainers just dont want to do it ( remove 90% of its crappy features , move APIs out of the core ,etc ... ). They've done a lot to improve it. Were you around in the PHP 4 days? They simply have their work cut out for them. There's too much gross in there!
maratd 13y ago
> whereas in PHP the really good ones are like drops in an ocean of sulphuric acid Which is a good thing. Once a client finds you, they will hold on to you for dear life. Why should I care about the level of difficulty of finding me, if that level of difficulty is in my favor? > and like anyone in an ocean of sulphuric acid, they usually prefer to be somewhere else. What? No. I like being in that ocean. I charge extra whenever I have to touch anyone else's code-base, because I know it'll be garbage. Is it fun cleaning up garbage? No. But it pays well and it is challenging. You don't know challenging until you forced yourself to think like a moron. And the thing is, the person who wrote it knows it's garbage too, so they'll never publish it. Quite a bit of the open-source stuff recently has been of high quality.