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Except they're correct. HN has always been an echo chamber and the groupthink here is thicker than most places.

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simias 13y ago
It's been worse lately, I wish all political debates were banned in this place. IMO HN should be a technical forum first and foremost. There are plenty of places on the internet do discuss politics, this doesn't need to be one of them.
- hboon 13y ago
  Let's just flag those posts that we think don't belong here.
  - twoodfin 13y ago
    Careful, if you do this too often you'll lose flag privileges. Besides, since pg has commented on a few of these posts approvingly, and since stories that would be [dead] within minutes previously now regularly top the front page, we have to assume he is OK with "Snowden News" at least for now.
  - moocowduckquack 13y ago
    How about starting by not commenting on posts you aren't interested in.
- zxcdw 13y ago
  Except that the implications of Snowden and PRISM and whatnot are fisrt and foremost technical when it comes to running an online business, something HN is very focused on.
  - DanBC 13y ago
    This submission has zero technical content. There is nothing in this discussion that is relevant to people running an online business in a world where PRISM exists.
- lsc 13y ago
  Be the change you want to see. I mean, I'm guilty of the same thing, too. Really, I think the problem is that I (or you) click on these obvious political headlines. It's not like it's not obvious what they are from the headline, so they aren't hard to avoid. I'd compare this waste of time with being fat; the problem isn't the candy jar; the problem is that I /eat/ the candy in the candy jar.
- moocowduckquack 13y ago
  There is and always has been a massive overlap between technology and politics, especially computer technology. To try and have a purely technical forum without any politics at all when dealing with the subject of computers, would be to ignore many of the main players and originators and also the motives that led to the existence of much of the technology. The current news with the NSA is political, sure, but it is also as technical as it gets.
- sanderjd 13y ago
  Honestly, here's the thing for me - I agree with your comment in theory, but in practice, I'm not so sure. This forum was never meant for politics, and I think it's a real bummer that a potentially large faction of the readership here will forever have a tarnished view of the discussion here due to the strong political bent of the last few weeks. But in practice, I really don't know where else to go to see smart people discuss this topic. I know lots of places to find lots of people loudly agreeing with each other on one side of the debate or another, and I know some places where people debate it with the I'm-more-stubborn-and-louder-than-you methodology. Certainly the discussion here has been guilty of both of those sins at times, but I've yet to find a forum with more adversarial but civil discussion than this one. Suggestions?
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It's been worse lately, I wish all political debates were banned in this place. IMO HN should be a technical forum first and foremost. There are plenty of places on the internet do discuss politics, this doesn't need to be one of them.

hboon 13y ago
Let's just flag those posts that we think don't belong here.
- twoodfin 13y ago
  Careful, if you do this too often you'll lose flag privileges. Besides, since pg has commented on a few of these posts approvingly, and since stories that would be [dead] within minutes previously now regularly top the front page, we have to assume he is OK with "Snowden News" at least for now.
- moocowduckquack 13y ago
  How about starting by not commenting on posts you aren't interested in.
zxcdw 13y ago
Except that the implications of Snowden and PRISM and whatnot are fisrt and foremost technical when it comes to running an online business, something HN is very focused on.
- DanBC 13y ago
  This submission has zero technical content. There is nothing in this discussion that is relevant to people running an online business in a world where PRISM exists.
lsc 13y ago
Be the change you want to see. I mean, I'm guilty of the same thing, too. Really, I think the problem is that I (or you) click on these obvious political headlines. It's not like it's not obvious what they are from the headline, so they aren't hard to avoid. I'd compare this waste of time with being fat; the problem isn't the candy jar; the problem is that I /eat/ the candy in the candy jar.
moocowduckquack 13y ago
There is and always has been a massive overlap between technology and politics, especially computer technology. To try and have a purely technical forum without any politics at all when dealing with the subject of computers, would be to ignore many of the main players and originators and also the motives that led to the existence of much of the technology. The current news with the NSA is political, sure, but it is also as technical as it gets.
sanderjd 13y ago
Honestly, here's the thing for me - I agree with your comment in theory, but in practice, I'm not so sure. This forum was never meant for politics, and I think it's a real bummer that a potentially large faction of the readership here will forever have a tarnished view of the discussion here due to the strong political bent of the last few weeks. But in practice, I really don't know where else to go to see smart people discuss this topic. I know lots of places to find lots of people loudly agreeing with each other on one side of the debate or another, and I know some places where people debate it with the I'm-more-stubborn-and-louder-than-you methodology. Certainly the discussion here has been guilty of both of those sins at times, but I've yet to find a forum with more adversarial but civil discussion than this one. Suggestions?

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