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To the people who consider UX as a job title. If you want your online business to be successful, UX is the first thing you should think of. Design is like the

To the people who consider UX as a job title. If you want your online business to be successful, UX is the first thing you should think of. Design is like the strawberries on the cake, UX is, how the cake tastes.

tlarkworthy 13y ago
I have another set of people, the product designers, who will strongly disagree on your unqualified use of word "design", saying that design is the all encompassing use of a "thing" in a context. Largely being what you call UX. My larger point is that the geeks of the web, in trying to come up with pointlessly precise definitions of what they do, rebase themselves from where they came from.
- whizzkid 13y ago
  I totally agree with "trying to come up with pointlessly precise definitions of what they do" what i am trying to say is, what makes product successful is not the interface design. I don't care if your product looks so beautiful and lovely if i can not use it with bad bandwidth for example, or on my mobile. I don't care how cool colours you use, if i need to click everywhere to find what i am looking for.
  - rimantas 13y ago
    > "trying to come up with pointlessly precise definitions of what they do" A few years ago I was following a few IA (Information Architecture) blogs, but dropped them quite quickly, because that was pretty much the main concern of theirs :)
jalfresi 13y ago
For me, when some people say "design" they mean "style". For example, someone works in the UI layer? That's the visual style of the application. I think in the early days of the web, "design" was co-opted from traditional print graphic designers as a way to draw a distinction from then; a web designer. However, I think its much more important to emphasize the capital D Design that occurs in software development, as in your cake example. So I would adjust your example as such: "visual style is like the strawberries on the cake, Design is the recipe. UX is how the cake tastes i.e. the culmination of Design and attention to detail during the assembly process"
- eflowers 13y ago
  That's a good way of putting it. I would add that someone, a UX role perhaps, also has to have researched/figured out the answers to "A cake for who?" "What is the occasion?" "How big does this cake have to scale?" "Do we know if this certain bride has any certain preferences" "Wait how did we determine this is a wedding cake?" "My bad, it's a birthday party. But this was a pretty dope wedding cake we built don't you think? Tastes great!" "But it was for a 6 year old boy's birthday" "Look we don't have time to muck about with look and feel. It's a cake. It's a birthday, just fucking ship it." =D

tlarkworthy 13y ago

I have another set of people, the product designers, who will strongly disagree on your unqualified use of word "design", saying that design is the all encompassing use of a "thing" in a context. Largely being what you call UX. My larger point is that the geeks of the web, in trying to come up with pointlessly precise definitions of what they do, rebase themselves from where they came from.

whizzkid 13y ago
I totally agree with "trying to come up with pointlessly precise definitions of what they do" what i am trying to say is, what makes product successful is not the interface design. I don't care if your product looks so beautiful and lovely if i can not use it with bad bandwidth for example, or on my mobile. I don't care how cool colours you use, if i need to click everywhere to find what i am looking for.
- rimantas 13y ago
  > "trying to come up with pointlessly precise definitions of what they do" A few years ago I was following a few IA (Information Architecture) blogs, but dropped them quite quickly, because that was pretty much the main concern of theirs :)

jalfresi 13y ago

For me, when some people say "design" they mean "style". For example, someone works in the UI layer? That's the visual style of the application. I think in the early days of the web, "design" was co-opted from traditional print graphic designers as a way to draw a distinction from then; a web designer. However, I think its much more important to emphasize the capital D Design that occurs in software development, as in your cake example. So I would adjust your example as such: "visual style is like the strawberries on the cake, Design is the recipe. UX is how the cake tastes i.e. the culmination of Design and attention to detail during the assembly process"

eflowers 13y ago
That's a good way of putting it. I would add that someone, a UX role perhaps, also has to have researched/figured out the answers to "A cake for who?" "What is the occasion?" "How big does this cake have to scale?" "Do we know if this certain bride has any certain preferences" "Wait how did we determine this is a wedding cake?" "My bad, it's a birthday party. But this was a pretty dope wedding cake we built don't you think? Tastes great!" "But it was for a 6 year old boy's birthday" "Look we don't have time to muck about with look and feel. It's a cake. It's a birthday, just fucking ship it." =D