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I understand your basic point, though I don't think it is strictly true that Creationism makes no predictions.

by TrevorJ 17y ago

spydez 17y ago
Creationism doesn't, in my opinion, make any predictions. You have to go to Intelligent Design proponents like biochemist Michael Behe before you get predictions. He has the "irreducibly complex" theory, and a few examples of biochemical reactions (human blood clotting is one) that he believes are irreducibly complex. Other scientists have tried to prove his examples weren't irreducibly complex (e.g., dolphins and puffer fish have steps removed from their blood clotting reaction compared to humans), but yeah. AFAIK, (biblical) creationism's whole point is "the Bible is right, QED."
- randallsquared 17y ago
  Creationists do make predictions regarding the Flood and other biblical events, and regarding the ages of everything else. During the 80s, when I was growing up Baptist, they liked to talk about intertwined human and dino fossils, and dino tracks crossing human tracks that were clearly older, and such. Dunno about now.
- TrevorJ 17y ago
  Ah, ok. I do agree with that point. I was lumping "Intelligent Design" in with Creationism in my previous post.
tokenadult 17y ago
Creationism makes no predictions. Quoted from the parent post of your post to agree with what you say. I think creationists do make one prediction, but it's a prediction that has been proven wrong, so it is not often brought up by creationists. I'm referring to the Biblical account(s) that humankind was specially created as a separate act of creation (and, by implication, through a special process) different from the creation of other animal living things. The prediction is that human beings are radically different in some discernible way from chimpanzees and other living things. But in fact genes and even junk DNA can be traced by common descent not only throughout the primate line but all the way back to the last common ancestor of human beings and fruit flies. The science of molecular genetics has completely blown to smithereens any hope for a "creation science" that is credible to open-minded people. I write this as someone who grew up with very close associations to scientifically educated people who were willing at least to entertain the possibility of young-earth creationism as related in the Biblical texts.

I understand your basic point, though I don't think it is strictly true that Creationism makes no predictions.

by TrevorJ 17y ago

I understand your basic point, though I don't think it is strictly true that Creationism makes no predictions.

Creationism doesn't, in my opinion, make any predictions. You have to go to Intelligent Design proponents like biochemist Michael Behe before you get predictions. He has the "irreducibly complex" theory, and a few examples of biochemical reactions (human blood clotting is one) that he believes are irreducibly complex. Other scientists have tried to prove his examples weren't irreducibly complex (e.g., dolphins and puffer fish have steps removed from their blood clotting reaction compared to humans), but yeah. AFAIK, (biblical) creationism's whole point is "the Bible is right, QED."

randallsquared 17y ago
Creationists do make predictions regarding the Flood and other biblical events, and regarding the ages of everything else. During the 80s, when I was growing up Baptist, they liked to talk about intertwined human and dino fossils, and dino tracks crossing human tracks that were clearly older, and such. Dunno about now.
TrevorJ 17y ago
Ah, ok. I do agree with that point. I was lumping "Intelligent Design" in with Creationism in my previous post.

tokenadult 17y ago

Creationism makes no predictions. Quoted from the parent post of your post to agree with what you say. I think creationists do make one prediction, but it's a prediction that has been proven wrong, so it is not often brought up by creationists. I'm referring to the Biblical account(s) that humankind was specially created as a separate act of creation (and, by implication, through a special process) different from the creation of other animal living things. The prediction is that human beings are radically different in some discernible way from chimpanzees and other living things. But in fact genes and even junk DNA can be traced by common descent not only throughout the primate line but all the way back to the last common ancestor of human beings and fruit flies. The science of molecular genetics has completely blown to smithereens any hope for a "creation science" that is credible to open-minded people. I write this as someone who grew up with very close associations to scientifically educated people who were willing at least to entertain the possibility of young-earth creationism as related in the Biblical texts.