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anyone explored their sdk and/or the Palm WebOS/mojo documentation yet? i'm curious to see how low they can set the app-creation bar, as development without th

by tdonia 17y ago

anyone explored their sdk and/or the Palm WebOS/mojo documentation yet? i'm curious to see how low they can set the app-creation bar, as development without the app store curatorial process could be an interesting differentiator.

mtinkerhess 17y ago
I'd also be curious to hear from anyone who has some hands-on experience with the emulator. From reading some of the documentation they've put out and watching a webcast about Pre development, it looks like building Pre apps is more or less like building web pages. On the plus side, this means they're easier to build than an obj-c gui. On the minus side, you have to use javascript for logic. I'm predicting apps on the Pre will look a lot more like web pages and a lot less like desktop or iPhone apps. I wish you could use c/c++ and opengl on the Pre -- that's what would get me really excited about it as a platform.
- randallsquared 17y ago
  On the minus side, you have to use javascript for logic. That's not really a minus, in my opinion. Most of the problems with Javascript are really the DOM and lack of libraries, and I don't have many problems with the DOM these days due to jQuery and friends, so if they have the libraries...
  - pj 17y ago
    JavaScript is still fighting the stigma of browser incompatibilities, but it's gotten much much better. It is still a little show though, but that'll change over time.
    - auston 17y ago
      In the case of mobile Android, iPhone, Pre & S60 (Nokia's thing) all use WebKit.
  - clofresh 17y ago
    Agreed. Also, Palm is using Prototype (http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-core/browse_thread/thread/8ea86640c471b86f/655559cd982f321a?lnk=gst&q=palm#655559cd982f321a http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-core/browse_thread/...), which bolts some nice Ruby-ish features onto the base Javascript classes.
- jmtulloss 17y ago
  Why would C/C++ get you excited about the platform? The iPhone offers a native development platform already, wouldn't that just be more of the same?
iigs 17y ago
One of my must-have applications for a smartphone is a SSH client. I'm really looking forward to seeing if that type of application can be built using the HTML/javascript API that has been such a hot topic, or if there will be another way to deploy something like this, or if it's even going to be possible at all on the Pre.
- wmf 17y ago
  Sounds like Bespin + Comet + a protocol translator could do it.

by tdonia 17y ago

mtinkerhess 17y ago

I'd also be curious to hear from anyone who has some hands-on experience with the emulator. From reading some of the documentation they've put out and watching a webcast about Pre development, it looks like building Pre apps is more or less like building web pages. On the plus side, this means they're easier to build than an obj-c gui. On the minus side, you have to use javascript for logic. I'm predicting apps on the Pre will look a lot more like web pages and a lot less like desktop or iPhone apps. I wish you could use c/c++ and opengl on the Pre -- that's what would get me really excited about it as a platform.

randallsquared 17y ago
On the minus side, you have to use javascript for logic. That's not really a minus, in my opinion. Most of the problems with Javascript are really the DOM and lack of libraries, and I don't have many problems with the DOM these days due to jQuery and friends, so if they have the libraries...
- pj 17y ago
  JavaScript is still fighting the stigma of browser incompatibilities, but it's gotten much much better. It is still a little show though, but that'll change over time.
  - auston 17y ago
    In the case of mobile Android, iPhone, Pre & S60 (Nokia's thing) all use WebKit.
- clofresh 17y ago
  Agreed. Also, Palm is using Prototype (http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-core/browse_thread/thread/8ea86640c471b86f/655559cd982f321a?lnk=gst&q=palm#655559cd982f321a http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-core/browse_thread/...), which bolts some nice Ruby-ish features onto the base Javascript classes.
jmtulloss 17y ago
Why would C/C++ get you excited about the platform? The iPhone offers a native development platform already, wouldn't that just be more of the same?

iigs 17y ago

One of my must-have applications for a smartphone is a SSH client. I'm really looking forward to seeing if that type of application can be built using the HTML/javascript API that has been such a hot topic, or if there will be another way to deploy something like this, or if it's even going to be possible at all on the Pre.

wmf 17y ago
Sounds like Bespin + Comet + a protocol translator could do it.