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Have you tried Ensure Complete? I got so impatient while waiting for my Soylent order to arrive that I actually did. First of all, it's loaded with sugar, and l

Have you tried Ensure Complete? I got so impatient while waiting for my Soylent order to arrive that I actually did. First of all, it's loaded with sugar, and lacks Soylent's heavy dose of fiber to balance out the glycemic index. Result: sugar rush followed by a nasty crash. Secondly, it lacks some of Soylent's extras like creatine and MCT fats. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, it's expensive: it would be almost $465/month, or $15/day to get 2400 calories from these ( http://www.walmart.com/ip/Ensure-Complete-Chocolate-Nutrition-Shakes-8-fl-oz-4-count/22569718#Nutrition+Facts http://www.walmart.com/ip/Ensure-Complete-Chocolate-Nutritio... ). Whereas the Soylent team is working to get the price down to ~$200/month, or ~$6.50/day. Soylent will be not only one of the highest-quality products in its category, but also perhaps the first one that isn't "for the well-off." I anticipate that it will shrink my food budget substantially. Not to mention the future savings on food-related things like dishes and silverware. Hell, if I really switch to it full time, I might even be able to save on electricity by unplugging my refrigerator!

zorpner 13y ago
> heavy dose of fiber to balance out the glycemic index. Result: sugar rush followed by a nasty crash Good God, man, that is not at all what fiber does, and has nothing to do with the role of fiber in diet. Please stop consuming this before you hurt yourself, and please stop talking about it before you hurt others.
- cjp 13y ago
  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11858448 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11858448 Wouldn't want to actually stfw or anything.
  - zorpner 13y ago
    Oh, you're one of the people that believe that a perceived "sugar rush" has something to do with diabetic glycemic excursions? They're entirely different phenomena. Dismissed. But thanks for the irrelevant link!
    - cjp 13y ago
      What is it that you think sowhatquestion means by "sugar rush"? My guess is you think he means hyperactivity. What is the difference between a diabetic glycemic excursion (what you said) and a postprandial glycemic excursion (what I linked)?
      - zorpner 13y ago
        I'm going to answer your first question with a question: what do you think he means by "nasty crash"? Because I guarantee it's not what happens post-excursion. There's no difference -- postprandial excursions are a diabetic phenomenon, and have nothing to do with what non-diabetic individuals think of as the effect of sugar and fiber on their health and mood.
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javert 13y ago
To add to this: I was in the same boat. Tried Nestle Boost because I didn't want to wait for Soylent. It left me hungry. Reportedly, Soylent doesn't do that. I also tried Ensure very briefly, and got the same impression, but I'm only like 98% sure that, like Boost, it will also leave me hungry.
- josephpmay 13y ago
  I've been having Glucerna for breakfast every day for the past two months and it hasn't left me hungry. I don't know how well it works out as a complete meal replacement, but at least as a breakfast it's filling (and I'm normally a heavy breakfast eater whose very sensitive to hunger).
  - eru 13y ago
    With a bit of patience, you can also just train yourself to break your fast later in the day.
    - josephpmay 13y ago
      Was that an attempt at a pun, or a serious comment? I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're saying.
      - eru 13y ago
        Serious comment. I meant, skipping breakfast in the morning ain't all that hard, if you can endure a few days of hunger in the morning until your body adapts. Fasting in any form is something you get better at with practice.
        radarsat1 13y ago
        As someone who recently moved to Paris, I can confirm. Parisians don't eat breakfast. It's weird, and I miss my big north-american breakfast, but I'm getting used to it.
josephpmay 13y ago
Try Glucerna. It tastes pretty good, has a good glycermic index, and is pretty filling.
reedlaw 13y ago
At $200 a month I wonder how Soylent would compare to, say, beans and rice. If Soylent wants to market itself as an affordable product, it should be at least comparable to a home-cooked diet that can be had for $100 a month (which should also be able to include fruits, vegetables, and occasional meat [1]). 1. http://www.onehundreddollarsamonth.com/mondays-with-mavis-how-to-feed-your-family-for-100-a-month-40/ http://www.onehundreddollarsamonth.com/mondays-with-mavis-ho...
- dagw 13y ago
  Soylent's main goal isn't to be cheap food, but to be fast, fairly nutritious, foodstuff for people who don't want 'waste' their time cooking.
penetrarthur 13y ago
Creatine? Creatine is not even absorbed unless you do a strength workout several times a week. And it takes some for your stomach to get used to it.
- MDS100 13y ago
  Oh god no http://examine.com/supplements/Creatine/ http://examine.com/supplements/Creatine/

zorpner 13y ago

> heavy dose of fiber to balance out the glycemic index. Result: sugar rush followed by a nasty crash Good God, man, that is not at all what fiber does, and has nothing to do with the role of fiber in diet. Please stop consuming this before you hurt yourself, and please stop talking about it before you hurt others.

cjp 13y ago
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11858448 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11858448 Wouldn't want to actually stfw or anything.
- zorpner 13y ago
  Oh, you're one of the people that believe that a perceived "sugar rush" has something to do with diabetic glycemic excursions? They're entirely different phenomena. Dismissed. But thanks for the irrelevant link!
  - cjp 13y ago
    What is it that you think sowhatquestion means by "sugar rush"? My guess is you think he means hyperactivity. What is the difference between a diabetic glycemic excursion (what you said) and a postprandial glycemic excursion (what I linked)?
    - zorpner 13y ago
      I'm going to answer your first question with a question: what do you think he means by "nasty crash"? Because I guarantee it's not what happens post-excursion. There's no difference -- postprandial excursions are a diabetic phenomenon, and have nothing to do with what non-diabetic individuals think of as the effect of sugar and fiber on their health and mood.
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javert 13y ago

To add to this: I was in the same boat. Tried Nestle Boost because I didn't want to wait for Soylent. It left me hungry. Reportedly, Soylent doesn't do that. I also tried Ensure very briefly, and got the same impression, but I'm only like 98% sure that, like Boost, it will also leave me hungry.

josephpmay 13y ago
I've been having Glucerna for breakfast every day for the past two months and it hasn't left me hungry. I don't know how well it works out as a complete meal replacement, but at least as a breakfast it's filling (and I'm normally a heavy breakfast eater whose very sensitive to hunger).
- eru 13y ago
  With a bit of patience, you can also just train yourself to break your fast later in the day.
  - josephpmay 13y ago
    Was that an attempt at a pun, or a serious comment? I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're saying.
    - eru 13y ago
      Serious comment. I meant, skipping breakfast in the morning ain't all that hard, if you can endure a few days of hunger in the morning until your body adapts. Fasting in any form is something you get better at with practice.
      - radarsat1 13y ago
        As someone who recently moved to Paris, I can confirm. Parisians don't eat breakfast. It's weird, and I miss my big north-american breakfast, but I'm getting used to it.

josephpmay 13y ago

Try Glucerna. It tastes pretty good, has a good glycermic index, and is pretty filling.

reedlaw 13y ago

At $200 a month I wonder how Soylent would compare to, say, beans and rice. If Soylent wants to market itself as an affordable product, it should be at least comparable to a home-cooked diet that can be had for $100 a month (which should also be able to include fruits, vegetables, and occasional meat [1]). 1. http://www.onehundreddollarsamonth.com/mondays-with-mavis-how-to-feed-your-family-for-100-a-month-40/ http://www.onehundreddollarsamonth.com/mondays-with-mavis-ho...

dagw 13y ago
Soylent's main goal isn't to be cheap food, but to be fast, fairly nutritious, foodstuff for people who don't want 'waste' their time cooking.

penetrarthur 13y ago

Creatine? Creatine is not even absorbed unless you do a strength workout several times a week. And it takes some for your stomach to get used to it.

MDS100 13y ago
Oh god no http://examine.com/supplements/Creatine/ http://examine.com/supplements/Creatine/