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> Honestly I cant find a single logical reason why this artificial-meat buisness is a good idea You can't find a single reason why people would rather eat a re

> Honestly I cant find a single logical reason why this artificial-meat buisness is a good idea You can't find a single reason why people would rather eat a replacement that eventually looks and tastes like a burger, rather than cow-food mixed with saffron and beet juice? If that sounds good to you, more power to you, but to think that people would pay for the mush the same way people currently pay for burgers is ridiculous.

runarberg 13y ago
No, I can't find a single logical reason. Saturating peoples appetite for overmarkeded type of food doesn't seem logical to me. Just because people will pay money for it, doesn't make it a good idea.
- kbenson 13y ago
  Why do people always confuse logic to mean we ignore all sociological concerns? Just because they are harder to reason about doesn't mean they don't matter. It's not logical to pretend that they don't matter.
  - runarberg 13y ago
    Im sorry for the misuse of the word 'logic'. By 'logic' I ment 'makes human sence'. But I was wrong there too. For investigating in means to satisfy our tastebuts, more economly, sound really human to me. I guess, what I'm saying is simply that the time and effort going into artificial meat, and the promise it is going to generate will probably end up in continued overcomsuption. Totally overshadowing the social consernes. I only wish an investigation into how to behaviorally modify our species from doing wastefull and damaging stuff on mass scale, would get as much funding and attention.
    - jasondemeuse 13y ago
      How does this research _not_ have the goal of keeping humans from doing "wasteful and damaging stuff"? The long term point is to have only a few cows that can create tons of beef without being slaughtered. Sounds much less wasteful, more efficient, and less damaging to me. If your only other problem with this is that they're working on changing the product rather than the behavior of an entire population, without actually giving a hint on how you would go about changing that behavior, you're just complaining for the sake of complaining.
- bane 13y ago
  What's the logical reason for flavoring the beans?
apalmer 13y ago
Ehhh, I mean I dont think this psuedo meat will ever taste EXACTLY like a burger either. Frankly, if one were to spend this kind of time, money and effort to produce a 'tasty' no meat burger probably you could get something of similar taste value. I personally find this valuable for the same reason the space program is valuable, a lot will be learned, and technology will advance. As far as being a practical solution, seems unlikely. On the 'low end' the actual hungry people of the world for the most part arent particularly meat driven to the same degree that Americans are. On the 'high end', there is literally no way to reproduce the marbleing, vascular structure, bones etc, required to make a top quality steak without reproducing the whole cow, at which point the excersize is moot. I mean on the high end folks claim they can taste the difference in the type of grain the animal was fed, so that market is not going to go in for lab grown meat no matter what. So really at best, this technology will one day be able to replace ground beef, which isnt an ignoble goal.

runarberg 13y ago

No, I can't find a single logical reason. Saturating peoples appetite for overmarkeded type of food doesn't seem logical to me. Just because people will pay money for it, doesn't make it a good idea.

kbenson 13y ago
Why do people always confuse logic to mean we ignore all sociological concerns? Just because they are harder to reason about doesn't mean they don't matter. It's not logical to pretend that they don't matter.
- runarberg 13y ago
  Im sorry for the misuse of the word 'logic'. By 'logic' I ment 'makes human sence'. But I was wrong there too. For investigating in means to satisfy our tastebuts, more economly, sound really human to me. I guess, what I'm saying is simply that the time and effort going into artificial meat, and the promise it is going to generate will probably end up in continued overcomsuption. Totally overshadowing the social consernes. I only wish an investigation into how to behaviorally modify our species from doing wastefull and damaging stuff on mass scale, would get as much funding and attention.
  - jasondemeuse 13y ago
    How does this research _not_ have the goal of keeping humans from doing "wasteful and damaging stuff"? The long term point is to have only a few cows that can create tons of beef without being slaughtered. Sounds much less wasteful, more efficient, and less damaging to me. If your only other problem with this is that they're working on changing the product rather than the behavior of an entire population, without actually giving a hint on how you would go about changing that behavior, you're just complaining for the sake of complaining.
bane 13y ago
What's the logical reason for flavoring the beans?

apalmer 13y ago

Ehhh, I mean I dont think this psuedo meat will ever taste EXACTLY like a burger either. Frankly, if one were to spend this kind of time, money and effort to produce a 'tasty' no meat burger probably you could get something of similar taste value. I personally find this valuable for the same reason the space program is valuable, a lot will be learned, and technology will advance. As far as being a practical solution, seems unlikely. On the 'low end' the actual hungry people of the world for the most part arent particularly meat driven to the same degree that Americans are. On the 'high end', there is literally no way to reproduce the marbleing, vascular structure, bones etc, required to make a top quality steak without reproducing the whole cow, at which point the excersize is moot. I mean on the high end folks claim they can taste the difference in the type of grain the animal was fed, so that market is not going to go in for lab grown meat no matter what. So really at best, this technology will one day be able to replace ground beef, which isnt an ignoble goal.