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I live in Germany. I am quite genuinely not experiencing any mass public aversion to the Snowden revelations. Small coverage on TV news. A few talk show program

by junto 13y ago

I live in Germany. I am quite genuinely not experiencing any mass public aversion to the Snowden revelations. Small coverage on TV news. A few talk show programs. A couple of public protests that attracted less than 1000 people in all cases. Nothing that the NSA should be worried about. Keep up the 'good work' NSA. Seems like nobody cares. Crisis averted. Defcon 5.

northwest 13y ago
From what I hear, the mainstream media in Europe generally doesn't really push Greenwald's stories. There is really no valid justification for these circumstances. It leads me to assume/believe that European media is also controlled by those in power.
- junto 13y ago
  From the British media that is definitely the case. The BBC reporting is a good case in point. Other media in the UK is primarily owned or controlled by Murdoch. In Germany the situation is a little different. Der Spiegel and Süddeutsche Zeitung, have had various coverage. The one one Obama's whistleblower 'witch-hunt' for example is pretty damning, especially from a country that loved Obama 4 years ago and couldn't get enough of him. - Obama is 'merciless': http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/barack-obama-treibjagd-auf-whistleblower-1.1739636 http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/barack-obama-treibjagd-au... Die Welt on the other hand appears to be going the other way. It is supposed to be a 'centrist/liberal', but does not appear to be making a stance against mass-surveillance. - 'Cooperation with NSA is "good and right"': http://www.welt.de/print/welt_kompakt/article118723423/Spaeh-Affaere-Regierung-staerkt-BND.html http://www.welt.de/print/welt_kompakt/article118723423/Spaeh... SPD Head Steinbrück is maybe one guy that gets it, and wants to: - "ban the use of mobile phones in cabinet meetings": http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/peer-steinbrueck/will-handys-in-kabinett-verbieten-31667022.bild.html http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/peer-steinbrueck/will-hand...
gurkendoktor 13y ago
The article is about companies, not the general population. But yeah - the CDU/CSU are easily the most pro-US parties, and projections place them at a comfortable 41%: http://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/index.htm http://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/index.htm
- junto 13y ago
  Last time I looked, the general population work as said companies. The two as inextricably intertwined.

by junto 13y ago

northwest 13y ago

From what I hear, the mainstream media in Europe generally doesn't really push Greenwald's stories. There is really no valid justification for these circumstances. It leads me to assume/believe that European media is also controlled by those in power.

junto 13y ago
From the British media that is definitely the case. The BBC reporting is a good case in point. Other media in the UK is primarily owned or controlled by Murdoch. In Germany the situation is a little different. Der Spiegel and Süddeutsche Zeitung, have had various coverage. The one one Obama's whistleblower 'witch-hunt' for example is pretty damning, especially from a country that loved Obama 4 years ago and couldn't get enough of him. - Obama is 'merciless': http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/barack-obama-treibjagd-auf-whistleblower-1.1739636 http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/barack-obama-treibjagd-au... Die Welt on the other hand appears to be going the other way. It is supposed to be a 'centrist/liberal', but does not appear to be making a stance against mass-surveillance. - 'Cooperation with NSA is "good and right"': http://www.welt.de/print/welt_kompakt/article118723423/Spaeh-Affaere-Regierung-staerkt-BND.html http://www.welt.de/print/welt_kompakt/article118723423/Spaeh... SPD Head Steinbrück is maybe one guy that gets it, and wants to: - "ban the use of mobile phones in cabinet meetings": http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/peer-steinbrueck/will-handys-in-kabinett-verbieten-31667022.bild.html http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/peer-steinbrueck/will-hand...

gurkendoktor 13y ago

The article is about companies, not the general population. But yeah - the CDU/CSU are easily the most pro-US parties, and projections place them at a comfortable 41%: http://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/index.htm http://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/index.htm

junto 13y ago
Last time I looked, the general population work as said companies. The two as inextricably intertwined.