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I like the idea of a static binary with no dependencies. It would be nice if my static blog generator fit in with my usual unix toolset. So good job. Just one

I like the idea of a static binary with no dependencies. It would be nice if my static blog generator fit in with my usual unix toolset. So good job. Just one nitpick on the marketing copy: why does it matter what it's written in? As a user it could be written in assembler for all I care. As long as it works as advertised on the tin and it's what I'm looking for, who cares if it's written in Go? Anyway, I'm looking forward to checking it out and seeing if it'll fit my use case.

hannibalhorn 13y ago
I'm really not sure Go is a plus in this category of application, anyway. With jekyll and it's ilk, part of the allure is that if I need to do something it doesn't support out of the box, I can just embed some code right there along with the site sources, and it'll be executed when building the site. With Go, the second you step outside the box, you'd have to recompile the site compiler first. I've had so many experiences in the Java world with having to get a whole development environment and build working just to change one little piece of text, that I really think interpreted languages are a plus here.
- MetaCosm 13y ago
  Don't hold Java against Go :). It is all a matter of perspective I guess. Go requires 2 environmental (GOROOT, GOPATH) variables and you are ready to Go (zing). go run foo plus near instant compile times makes it feel extraordinarily script-y for small stuff. Hugo adds some external dependencies which can be fetched with `go get` (fsnotify, fsync, pflag, hugolib). One command deps are filled and you still have all the Go goodness. Jekyll requires (or generally expects) gem and requires at runtime (classifier, colorator, commander, directory_watcher, kramdown, liquid, maruku, pygments, redcarpet, safe_yaml) and for development (activesupport, cucumber, launchy, rake, rdiscount, rdoc, RedCloth, redgreen, rr, shoulda, simplecov, simplecov-gem-adapter) So, it all depends on what you value.
- drivebyacct2 13y ago
  What? To run this you need Go, on any system (and you can cross compile it). To run an interpreted script, you need the interpreter on the destination system. From your example, it makes no sense how an interp'd language is any better.
freyr 13y ago
"why does it matter what it's written in?" As jpalomaki pointed out, it matters since it's open source. If the user chooses Hugo and wants to modify or extend it down the line, he or she will be writing Go. And it might also matter to the author for a few more reasons: First, Go is a language rising in popularity (http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=golang#q=golang&cmpt=q http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=golang#q=golang&cmpt=...), and seems especially popular on HN lately. Mere mention of Go will drive more traffic to his site. (This could be supported by the fact that he constantly refers to the language as GoLang, which is much more search-engine friendly than the proper name Go). Second, if he enjoys working with Go, then raising the language's visibility will be good for the language, and good for developers who have invested in the language.
- mdda 13y ago
  Looking at the GoLang graph : I have to admit that I'm a little surprised to see so much of that interest originating from China (Shenzhen specifically).
  - justincormack 13y ago
    They seem to be making a concerted effort to make Go Chinese friendly https://code.google.com/p/go-zh/ https://code.google.com/p/go-zh/
    - vanderZwan 13y ago
      That would imply the initiative came from the Go team, and I can't recall ever seeing anything on go-dev or go-nuts suggesting such. That said, there are quite a lot of Asians on the go-nuts board. What might play part of this is that one of the main contributors to Go is a guy calling himself "minux"; the guy is pretty fucking brilliant. IIRC, minux is French with Chinese roots, and he's one of the owners of the Chinese port. Note that he doesn't actually work for Google, so so far it's all community driven. Similarly, one of the earliest Go-specific IDE's is LitteIDE, written by VisualFC. I suspect it's partially thanks to them that the Chinese community was off to a good start. Well, that and UTF8. Anyway, it's all speculation at this point; it would be nice if someone involved with the Chinese Go community could clear this up though.
jpalomaki 13y ago
The language can be important since this is an open source project. Given two open source projects that are otherwise similar, I'm more likely to pick the one that is written in language I'm familiar with.
jacques_chester 13y ago
> who cares if it's written in Go? HN. Static site generators in Visual Basic, PL/SQL, Java etc are not going to upvoted and will garner no job offers.

hannibalhorn 13y ago

I'm really not sure Go is a plus in this category of application, anyway. With jekyll and it's ilk, part of the allure is that if I need to do something it doesn't support out of the box, I can just embed some code right there along with the site sources, and it'll be executed when building the site. With Go, the second you step outside the box, you'd have to recompile the site compiler first. I've had so many experiences in the Java world with having to get a whole development environment and build working just to change one little piece of text, that I really think interpreted languages are a plus here.

MetaCosm 13y ago
Don't hold Java against Go :). It is all a matter of perspective I guess. Go requires 2 environmental (GOROOT, GOPATH) variables and you are ready to Go (zing). go run foo plus near instant compile times makes it feel extraordinarily script-y for small stuff. Hugo adds some external dependencies which can be fetched with `go get` (fsnotify, fsync, pflag, hugolib). One command deps are filled and you still have all the Go goodness. Jekyll requires (or generally expects) gem and requires at runtime (classifier, colorator, commander, directory_watcher, kramdown, liquid, maruku, pygments, redcarpet, safe_yaml) and for development (activesupport, cucumber, launchy, rake, rdiscount, rdoc, RedCloth, redgreen, rr, shoulda, simplecov, simplecov-gem-adapter) So, it all depends on what you value.
drivebyacct2 13y ago
What? To run this you need Go, on any system (and you can cross compile it). To run an interpreted script, you need the interpreter on the destination system. From your example, it makes no sense how an interp'd language is any better.

freyr 13y ago

"why does it matter what it's written in?" As jpalomaki pointed out, it matters since it's open source. If the user chooses Hugo and wants to modify or extend it down the line, he or she will be writing Go. And it might also matter to the author for a few more reasons: First, Go is a language rising in popularity (http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=golang#q=golang&cmpt=q http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=golang#q=golang&cmpt=...), and seems especially popular on HN lately. Mere mention of Go will drive more traffic to his site. (This could be supported by the fact that he constantly refers to the language as GoLang, which is much more search-engine friendly than the proper name Go). Second, if he enjoys working with Go, then raising the language's visibility will be good for the language, and good for developers who have invested in the language.

mdda 13y ago
Looking at the GoLang graph : I have to admit that I'm a little surprised to see so much of that interest originating from China (Shenzhen specifically).
- justincormack 13y ago
  They seem to be making a concerted effort to make Go Chinese friendly https://code.google.com/p/go-zh/ https://code.google.com/p/go-zh/
  - vanderZwan 13y ago
    That would imply the initiative came from the Go team, and I can't recall ever seeing anything on go-dev or go-nuts suggesting such. That said, there are quite a lot of Asians on the go-nuts board. What might play part of this is that one of the main contributors to Go is a guy calling himself "minux"; the guy is pretty fucking brilliant. IIRC, minux is French with Chinese roots, and he's one of the owners of the Chinese port. Note that he doesn't actually work for Google, so so far it's all community driven. Similarly, one of the earliest Go-specific IDE's is LitteIDE, written by VisualFC. I suspect it's partially thanks to them that the Chinese community was off to a good start. Well, that and UTF8. Anyway, it's all speculation at this point; it would be nice if someone involved with the Chinese Go community could clear this up though.

jpalomaki 13y ago

The language can be important since this is an open source project. Given two open source projects that are otherwise similar, I'm more likely to pick the one that is written in language I'm familiar with.

jacques_chester 13y ago

> who cares if it's written in Go? HN. Static site generators in Visual Basic, PL/SQL, Java etc are not going to upvoted and will garner no job offers.