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This is so tragic but basically verifies my own experiences with Google. If you are not a paying customer, they don't listen to you. Even if you do something th

by erikb 13y ago

This is so tragic but basically verifies my own experiences with Google. If you are not a paying customer, they don't listen to you. Even if you do something that is more to their advantage then to yours. Maybe some paying customers who use gmailsharedtasks could direct their Google support to the thread.

anuaitt 13y ago
If you see the thread there are "27 posts by 24 authors", many users are supporting my app and are sending thank you email. I have been even trying to reach Google employees personally but having no luck :(
eksith 13y ago
It's been mentioned before that, considering the volume Google serves in all their services, it's unrealistic to expect any sort of customer service beyond the FAQ and bot variety, but I'm sure there are those who are willing to pay for an actual response. But, as one of my clients would attest, even if you're a paying customer, you may still be left hanging in the wind. I hope they don't start spreading the YouTube feedback treatment to all their services.
- rmah 13y ago
  Google is on track to see a $14 bil pre-tax profit for 2013. If they spent 15% of that ($2.1 bil) on support, with say a mix of 2/3 low pay ($100k/yr cost) and 1/3 high pay ($150k/yr cost) people... they could hire 18,000 additional support staff and still show a great profit. That works out to 30 mil support hours assuming 1680 hrs/yr (35 hrs * 48 weeks) actually spent on support. They could probably hire twice that many people by hiring some people in less expensive areas. To sum up, Google puts making a more money ahead of better support. It's their right to do so, but it not "unrealistic" for them to provide much better support.
  - RogerL 13y ago
    Your numbers don't quite work - Google has to pay taxes, benefits, office space, training, perks, equipment, recruitment costs, and so on. And then, have you tried to hire 18,000 people? Finally, Google's reported head count is around 40K - you are suggesting adding about 50% just for support. That's a tough sell to your investors. Where would all these people go. Mountain View is basically Google these days - the office I am sitting in will be razed for a Google parking lot (goodbye beautiful trees :( ). You have to factor in how many new buildings, how many new buses and bus drivers, city taxes, chefs, HR personnel - it goes on and on. The phrase "google scale" doesn't just apply to their apps. I'm not disputing that they could improve their support, just the price tag and scale that you have placed on it.
    - ISL 13y ago
      Not to mention the inflexibility associated with having that many people around. Google's lack of support may come with the territory at present. If someone figures out how to automate support better, they're going to get paid. At the outset of Google's growth, their products and APIs seemed timeless; with the passage of a little time, that's changed.

by erikb 13y ago

anuaitt 13y ago

If you see the thread there are "27 posts by 24 authors", many users are supporting my app and are sending thank you email. I have been even trying to reach Google employees personally but having no luck :(

eksith 13y ago

It's been mentioned before that, considering the volume Google serves in all their services, it's unrealistic to expect any sort of customer service beyond the FAQ and bot variety, but I'm sure there are those who are willing to pay for an actual response. But, as one of my clients would attest, even if you're a paying customer, you may still be left hanging in the wind. I hope they don't start spreading the YouTube feedback treatment to all their services.

rmah 13y ago
Google is on track to see a $14 bil pre-tax profit for 2013. If they spent 15% of that ($2.1 bil) on support, with say a mix of 2/3 low pay ($100k/yr cost) and 1/3 high pay ($150k/yr cost) people... they could hire 18,000 additional support staff and still show a great profit. That works out to 30 mil support hours assuming 1680 hrs/yr (35 hrs * 48 weeks) actually spent on support. They could probably hire twice that many people by hiring some people in less expensive areas. To sum up, Google puts making a more money ahead of better support. It's their right to do so, but it not "unrealistic" for them to provide much better support.
- RogerL 13y ago
  Your numbers don't quite work - Google has to pay taxes, benefits, office space, training, perks, equipment, recruitment costs, and so on. And then, have you tried to hire 18,000 people? Finally, Google's reported head count is around 40K - you are suggesting adding about 50% just for support. That's a tough sell to your investors. Where would all these people go. Mountain View is basically Google these days - the office I am sitting in will be razed for a Google parking lot (goodbye beautiful trees :( ). You have to factor in how many new buildings, how many new buses and bus drivers, city taxes, chefs, HR personnel - it goes on and on. The phrase "google scale" doesn't just apply to their apps. I'm not disputing that they could improve their support, just the price tag and scale that you have placed on it.
  - ISL 13y ago
    Not to mention the inflexibility associated with having that many people around. Google's lack of support may come with the territory at present. If someone figures out how to automate support better, they're going to get paid. At the outset of Google's growth, their products and APIs seemed timeless; with the passage of a little time, that's changed.