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I was (trying to) excluding data collected by the police, since the original assertion was that this data can be denied to corporations. now, if you want to arg

by munin 13y ago

I was (trying to) excluding data collected by the police, since the original assertion was that this data can be denied to corporations. now, if you want to argue that ALP scanners are operated by contractors and the data is technically stored on a corporations systems, but access is only (nominally) given to LE, this gets a little stickier...

BrandonMarc 13y ago
You have a point. I wasn't thinking corporate access (the "private" part of the parent article) ... and more about the "public" (government) access. After all, the license-plate scanners may be operated by local police, but you must be certain the FBI sees everything. And with them the DHS and who knows what other alphabet soup of agencies ... many of whom can also see many / all of the other items in your list. While it's true people can try to reduce their footprint, it's pretty hard to avoid doing everything on the list ... and I suspect you only need to do a small few of those and it's more than enough to get a comprehensive assessment of you.
Amadou 13y ago
The biggest collections of plate-scan data are private. It started with repo-men who pay to be part of nationwide networks where they all drive around scanning every visible plate in exchange for getting hits on plates they are looking for. But, as always, those enormous databases were too tempting to just sit on and the maintainers have started looking for other ways to monetize them - if they'll sell joe lawyer a search for $10, you can be sure they are selling access to the NSA, et al too. http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamtanner/2013/07/10/data-broker-offers-new-service-showing-where-they-have-spotted-your-car/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamtanner/2013/07/10/data-broke... http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/02/16/4626118/a-fort-worth-firm-makes-a-device.html http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/02/16/4626118/a-fort-worth... http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/automobiles/28REPO.html http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/automobiles/28REPO.html

by munin 13y ago

BrandonMarc 13y ago

You have a point. I wasn't thinking corporate access (the "private" part of the parent article) ... and more about the "public" (government) access. After all, the license-plate scanners may be operated by local police, but you must be certain the FBI sees everything. And with them the DHS and who knows what other alphabet soup of agencies ... many of whom can also see many / all of the other items in your list. While it's true people can try to reduce their footprint, it's pretty hard to avoid doing everything on the list ... and I suspect you only need to do a small few of those and it's more than enough to get a comprehensive assessment of you.

Amadou 13y ago

The biggest collections of plate-scan data are private. It started with repo-men who pay to be part of nationwide networks where they all drive around scanning every visible plate in exchange for getting hits on plates they are looking for. But, as always, those enormous databases were too tempting to just sit on and the maintainers have started looking for other ways to monetize them - if they'll sell joe lawyer a search for $10, you can be sure they are selling access to the NSA, et al too. http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamtanner/2013/07/10/data-broker-offers-new-service-showing-where-they-have-spotted-your-car/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamtanner/2013/07/10/data-broke... http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/02/16/4626118/a-fort-worth-firm-makes-a-device.html http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/02/16/4626118/a-fort-worth... http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/automobiles/28REPO.html http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/automobiles/28REPO.html