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The same award that was given to the person who's actively prosecuting them? Why would they want their name next to that piece of shit?

by nilved 13y ago

nostrademons 13y ago
FWIW, this happens all the time: In 1927 Ferdinand Buisson (France) and Ludwig Quidde (Germany) shared it "for contributions to Franco-German popular reconciliation". In 1973 Henry Kissinger (US) and Le Duc Tho (North Vietnam) shared it for the cease fire of the Vietnam war. In 1978 Anwar Saddat (Egypt) and Menachem Begin (Israel) shared it for the Camp David accords. In 1993 Nelson Mandela and Frederik Willem de Klerk (South Africa) shared it for the end of apartheid In 1994 Yasser Arafat (Palestine), Yitzhak Rabin, and Shimon Peres (Israel) shared it for...well, bringing peace between Israel and Palestine, except that hasn't exactly happened yet. The Peace Prize has always been somewhat aspirational - it's a way not only to reward accomplishments toward world peace, but also to shame & goad people in power into working toward a more peaceful world. Obama's prize was very much in that vein: it sent the signal "We like where you're going, so you better keep it up and live up to the award you just won." There's nothing contradictory about giving it to his opponents as well.
- freerobby 13y ago
  The irony is even more inescapable than that. It was founded by a guy who invented explosives and, who only created the prize after reading an incorrect reporting of his own death and being frustrated at how he was eulogized. > The obituary stated, Le marchand de la mort est mort ("The merchant of death is dead")[1] and went on to say, "Dr. Alfred Nobel, who became rich by finding ways to kill more people faster than ever before, died yesterday."[11] Alfred was disappointed with what he read and concerned with how he would be remembered. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Nobel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Nobel
  - jacquesm 13y ago
    Maybe we could misreport a few more deaths? Sounds like an excellent way to get people to realize they're jerks.
lifeformed 13y ago
I'm all for giving it to Snowden. It seems like a lot of people don't really know much about the situation and assume that he's the bad guy, based on what the TV says (that he's a traitor, etc). A lot of people don't even realize that many people consider his actions to be heroic. If he got the NPP, I think the average person might take a second look and realize that there's more to it than what they've heard.

The same award that was given to the person who's actively prosecuting them? Why would they want their name next to that piece of shit?

by nilved 13y ago

The same award that was given to the person who's actively prosecuting them? Why would they want their name next to that piece of shit?

nostrademons 13y ago

FWIW, this happens all the time: In 1927 Ferdinand Buisson (France) and Ludwig Quidde (Germany) shared it "for contributions to Franco-German popular reconciliation". In 1973 Henry Kissinger (US) and Le Duc Tho (North Vietnam) shared it for the cease fire of the Vietnam war. In 1978 Anwar Saddat (Egypt) and Menachem Begin (Israel) shared it for the Camp David accords. In 1993 Nelson Mandela and Frederik Willem de Klerk (South Africa) shared it for the end of apartheid In 1994 Yasser Arafat (Palestine), Yitzhak Rabin, and Shimon Peres (Israel) shared it for...well, bringing peace between Israel and Palestine, except that hasn't exactly happened yet. The Peace Prize has always been somewhat aspirational - it's a way not only to reward accomplishments toward world peace, but also to shame & goad people in power into working toward a more peaceful world. Obama's prize was very much in that vein: it sent the signal "We like where you're going, so you better keep it up and live up to the award you just won." There's nothing contradictory about giving it to his opponents as well.

freerobby 13y ago
The irony is even more inescapable than that. It was founded by a guy who invented explosives and, who only created the prize after reading an incorrect reporting of his own death and being frustrated at how he was eulogized. > The obituary stated, Le marchand de la mort est mort ("The merchant of death is dead")[1] and went on to say, "Dr. Alfred Nobel, who became rich by finding ways to kill more people faster than ever before, died yesterday."[11] Alfred was disappointed with what he read and concerned with how he would be remembered. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Nobel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Nobel
- jacquesm 13y ago
  Maybe we could misreport a few more deaths? Sounds like an excellent way to get people to realize they're jerks.

lifeformed 13y ago

I'm all for giving it to Snowden. It seems like a lot of people don't really know much about the situation and assume that he's the bad guy, based on what the TV says (that he's a traitor, etc). A lot of people don't even realize that many people consider his actions to be heroic. If he got the NPP, I think the average person might take a second look and realize that there's more to it than what they've heard.