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Honestly, I have to say I don't think this is an appropriate comment for a forum like this. It opens up a possibly disgusting debate. That said...it's an incre

Honestly, I have to say I don't think this is an appropriate comment for a forum like this. It opens up a possibly disgusting debate. That said...it's an incredibly common problem. I'm not going to point you where to look for proof, but you could easily find it if you wanted to. And that's horrific. The reason why it's so bad is because it's exploitation of children, who could not have led themselves into a vulnerable situation of their own accord. There's no reason to get into it any further, it's vile. And I want to reiterate...this really isn't the place for questioning why it shows up so much.

nawitus 13y ago
So your position is correct because it's correct, and nobody should question your position because that would be "disgusting"?
- dylangs1030 13y ago
  You missed the more important part of my comment - that this shouldn't be up for discussion. That has nothing to do with whether or not I'm right. I think I'm right in my view, and if you think I'm wrong that's okay. But let's not argue that kind of point here on Hacker News. That's not to say you can't question my view; I was answering a question. But I'm not going to engage in debate about it because I find it abhorrent to do so.
  - jules 13y ago
    So basically, you stated your side of the argument, and then preemptively disqualify anybody who may disagree with you by calling that abhorrent. Had you simply limited your comment to "this is inappropriate to discuss here" then that would be one thing, but right now it's very hypocritical.
mistercow 13y ago
>The reason why it's so bad is because it's exploitation of children, who could not have led themselves into a vulnerable situation of their own accord. Yikes, the flip side of that is that adult rape victims are at least partially at fault because they put themselves in a "vulnerable situation". Is that really a position you agree with?
- dylangs1030 13y ago
  You see, this is why I had said it shouldn't be discussed on a forum like this. I believe an honest human response would be more empathic and simply take something like CP being important without requiring extensive rationalization. Your response, nit-picking my words as a form of debate, is counter to an empathic response, and entirely what I had hoped to avoid. I'm not going to engage in that line of thought because, honestly, there are a multitude of reasons why child pornography should be a priority. I won't argue them, and I understand that might be unpopular, but will you really debate someone on this?
  - mistercow 13y ago
    I was by no means "nit-picking your words". I was asking you a question about a specific position you seemed to be implying. You can backtrack and say that you hadn't considered those implications. There's no shame in that. Or you could stand your ground and say that yes, you think that adult rape victims bear a small amount of responsibility relative to child victims. Those are both productive lines of discussion. Accusing people of dishonesty when they disagree with you or ask uncomfortable questions is not an acceptable way to conduct yourself.
- anigbrowl 13y ago
  Not so. Any sexual activity between a child (under the age of consent) and an adult is statutory rape because children are deemed legally incapable of giving consent in this context. By contrast, most adult sexual activity is consensual.
  - mistercow 13y ago
    dylangs1030 seemed to be talking about morality, not legality, in talking about "the reason why it's so bad". Legal definitions are irrelevant to discussions of morality.

nawitus 13y ago

So your position is correct because it's correct, and nobody should question your position because that would be "disgusting"?

dylangs1030 13y ago
You missed the more important part of my comment - that this shouldn't be up for discussion. That has nothing to do with whether or not I'm right. I think I'm right in my view, and if you think I'm wrong that's okay. But let's not argue that kind of point here on Hacker News. That's not to say you can't question my view; I was answering a question. But I'm not going to engage in debate about it because I find it abhorrent to do so.
- jules 13y ago
  So basically, you stated your side of the argument, and then preemptively disqualify anybody who may disagree with you by calling that abhorrent. Had you simply limited your comment to "this is inappropriate to discuss here" then that would be one thing, but right now it's very hypocritical.

mistercow 13y ago

>The reason why it's so bad is because it's exploitation of children, who could not have led themselves into a vulnerable situation of their own accord. Yikes, the flip side of that is that adult rape victims are at least partially at fault because they put themselves in a "vulnerable situation". Is that really a position you agree with?

dylangs1030 13y ago
You see, this is why I had said it shouldn't be discussed on a forum like this. I believe an honest human response would be more empathic and simply take something like CP being important without requiring extensive rationalization. Your response, nit-picking my words as a form of debate, is counter to an empathic response, and entirely what I had hoped to avoid. I'm not going to engage in that line of thought because, honestly, there are a multitude of reasons why child pornography should be a priority. I won't argue them, and I understand that might be unpopular, but will you really debate someone on this?
- mistercow 13y ago
  I was by no means "nit-picking your words". I was asking you a question about a specific position you seemed to be implying. You can backtrack and say that you hadn't considered those implications. There's no shame in that. Or you could stand your ground and say that yes, you think that adult rape victims bear a small amount of responsibility relative to child victims. Those are both productive lines of discussion. Accusing people of dishonesty when they disagree with you or ask uncomfortable questions is not an acceptable way to conduct yourself.
anigbrowl 13y ago
Not so. Any sexual activity between a child (under the age of consent) and an adult is statutory rape because children are deemed legally incapable of giving consent in this context. By contrast, most adult sexual activity is consensual.
- mistercow 13y ago
  dylangs1030 seemed to be talking about morality, not legality, in talking about "the reason why it's so bad". Legal definitions are irrelevant to discussions of morality.