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@melling - Stand up for Dart if you believe in it! Explain how a technology 100% designed and controlled by a single company is good for the open web. There's

by andyl 13y ago

@melling - Stand up for Dart if you believe in it! Explain how a technology 100% designed and controlled by a single company is good for the open web. There's plenty of examples that show Google has a pattern of abandoning open-standards in favor of proprietary solutions. XMPP, WebKit, RSS: embrace, extend, kill. Now JavaScript is in the gunsights. Stay away from Dart.

melling 13y ago
WebKit is Apple's baby. It'll survive and do well. Google diverging with their own product is not a problem. Can't speak to XMPP since I didn't follow that discussion. RSS is alive and well, however. All Google did was kill off their product. They didn't move to a different standard. I moved to the Digg Reader. Freedly is good too.
mayanksinghal 13y ago
How did Google kill Webkit now? Google was among the top contributors to the project till not too long ago. It then forked its branch to Blink and Opera went with it. It is an open source project, that has contributors from many organizations. The proceedings are public on blink mailing list. The proposals, changes everything is there. RSS, by kill I assume you are hinting at how all the feeds were available through Google Takeout and Google Reader APIs that other SaaS applications used to very quickly get up to speed. And how it was recently reported (on Verge?) that these providers are doing great. Heck, I remember reading a Google blog post that even listed these alternatives. So as it was said elsewhere in this thread, stop spreading false information.
mda 13y ago
Seems like whenever Dart is in HN, we hear a lot of FUD and slogans. Do you even know what Dart is?
ahoge 13y ago
>Explain how a technology 100% designed and controlled by a single company is good for the open web. Are you talking about JavaScript? ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript#History http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript#History

by andyl 13y ago

melling 13y ago

WebKit is Apple's baby. It'll survive and do well. Google diverging with their own product is not a problem. Can't speak to XMPP since I didn't follow that discussion. RSS is alive and well, however. All Google did was kill off their product. They didn't move to a different standard. I moved to the Digg Reader. Freedly is good too.

mayanksinghal 13y ago

How did Google kill Webkit now? Google was among the top contributors to the project till not too long ago. It then forked its branch to Blink and Opera went with it. It is an open source project, that has contributors from many organizations. The proceedings are public on blink mailing list. The proposals, changes everything is there. RSS, by kill I assume you are hinting at how all the feeds were available through Google Takeout and Google Reader APIs that other SaaS applications used to very quickly get up to speed. And how it was recently reported (on Verge?) that these providers are doing great. Heck, I remember reading a Google blog post that even listed these alternatives. So as it was said elsewhere in this thread, stop spreading false information.

mda 13y ago

Seems like whenever Dart is in HN, we hear a lot of FUD and slogans. Do you even know what Dart is?

ahoge 13y ago

>Explain how a technology 100% designed and controlled by a single company is good for the open web. Are you talking about JavaScript? ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript#History http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript#History