I get my impression from this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlJob8K_OwE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlJob8K_OwE Skip to &t=17m26s and you can hear

I get my impression from this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlJob8K_OwE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlJob8K_OwE Skip to &t=17m26s and you can hear them talk about it. Judge for yourself.