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YouTube adds Play icon to page titles so you can see which tabs are making noise
- bichiliad 13y agoTHANK. GOD.
- w1ntermute 13y agoI feel like this should be part of the browser.
- deadreturns2 13y agoIt is in Chrome Canary already.
- wfn 13y agodeadreturns2: fyi, you are shadowbanned (this means people won't see and won't be able to reply to your comments). Not sure why.
- Cthulhu_ 13y agoI'm sure there's a reason for it, and that telling people they've been hellbanned negates the whole purpose of said hellbanning.
- CamperBob2 13y agoCall it jury nullification. In a very large number of cases, a look through the person's comment history will offer no obvious reason for the ban.
- unimpressive 13y agoIf PG wants people to respect the Hellban, maybe he could append the reason they were hellbanned to their posts. (Obviously visible only to onlookers.) As it stands the process is opaque. In the case of the commenter below, 100% of his comments are short, and of them most are valueless or negatively valuable. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6073870 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6073870 A particularly poignant example.
- artursapek 13y agoI think people who choose to show hellbanned users should just be quiet about it.
- arrrg 13y agoI think it’s morally wrong to not make people who post something (that is not some sort of automated spam) that is just ignored aware of their situation.
- wfn 13y ago> In the case of the commenter below, 100% of his comments are short, and of them most are valueless or negatively valuable. I agree this might have been a poor choice re: this particular user. > maybe [pg] could append the reason they were hellbanned to their posts. (Obviously visible only to onlookers.) As it stands the process is opaque. Agree.
- sp332 13y agoPeople can get banned for automated reasons. If you find yourself banned, pg made a URL https://news.ycombinator.com/unban?ip=ipaddress https://news.ycombinator.com/unban?ip=ipaddress that will unban you. It only works once. I've been banned twice. The first time (before that URL existed) I appealed to info@ycombinator.com and they said it was a mistake. (The second time I used the URL.)
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- dubcanada 13y agoIt will be... It was a feature implemented in WebKit like a year ago. http://googlesystem.blogspot.ca/2013/02/chrome-shows-which-tab-is-making-noise.html http://googlesystem.blogspot.ca/2013/02/chrome-shows-which-t... It's coming soon I imagine.
- LAMike 13y agoI saw this on Canary a few months ago its a pretty nifty feature
- OMBUG 13y agoI'm curious as to why they took it out, it's a lifesaver when you have 50+ tabs and one of them has a talking ad.
- rhizome 13y agoIf YouTube didn't hire the best and the brightest they wouldn't how know to copy Soundcloud.
- kumarm 13y agoSo YouTube shouldn't do it because soundcloud did it first. If they copied soundcloud idea, I am really glad they did as a User.
- iamshs 13y agoAll he is saying is, it took them long to copy it.
- thezilch 13y agoNo, all he is saying is a snide remark about Google and its employees -- a completely pointless comment.
- rhizome 13y agoNo, it's an illustration of how hiring the best and brightest doesn't get you the cutting edge. If anything, hiring the best and brightest prevents those people from creating competitors. In the sense that I describe it, which is the sense in that it apparently didn't occur to YT to indicate a playing tab until now, Google et al are professional sandbaggers. This feature is straight-up evidence that YT is behind the times. Rationalize away the bureaucracy or inertia or whatever of a company that size all you like, but fact is they're behind the times. I bet they can write the shit out of a Quicksort on a whiteboard, though.
- ChrisNorstrom 13y agoCouldn't this have already been done by dynamically changing the favicon using javascript? Or did that not work with all browsers.
- harrytuttle 13y agoTo be honest I think a browser should shut the tab up if it isn't focussed and when you switch to it there should be an unmute button. There are so many pop-unders these days which start talking to you it's unreal. I'm not a victim of these regularly (thanks to adblock edge) but I know many who are.
- kevingadd 13y agoI don't think that will ever happen; lots of people use background tabs to play music in something like Pandora or Play Music.
- harrytuttle 13y agoThey can hit unmute :) I still use WinAmp. Perhaps I'm getting too old for this :)
- kalleboo 13y ago> I still use WinAmp How do you discover new music? > Perhaps I'm getting too old for this Aha, I see
- ferongr 13y ago>How do you discover new music? Not him but personally, I still discover music the same way I have for the past 17 years. Music sites, conversation with fans of bands I like, magazines, bandcamp (myspace in the old days), spontaneous purchases of 2nd hand CDs in stores... Personally, I find automatic recommendation services lacking both in recommendation quality and diversity of things to recommend from.
- Steko 13y ago"Discovering new music" is a massively overblown concept. I discover plenty of new music without going out of my way to do it but if I was trapped on a desert island with my current 40 some gb of music I'd probably be more than content with that for a few decades.
- tmrmn 13y agoUnfortunately it shows as playing by default, which is obviously not true if you have ’Click to Play’ enabled in Chrome (load plugins on demand).
- jaredsohn 13y agoFunny timing. I noticed this first after I updated Chrome and thought it was a part of their new audio indicators feature which might have been a part of the release. While researching this I discovered that you can see audio indicators right now (even in the stable release) by including "–enable-audible-notifications" in the commandline when running the program.
- look_lookatme 13y agoI'll be damned. http://i.imgur.com/kD1XAxm.gif http://i.imgur.com/kD1XAxm.gif
- jcampbell1 13y agoMy understanding is that Chrome wants to roll out this feature, but there is no way to know if various plugins, including flash, are playing audio. If they show an indicator for only html5 A/V it will seem like a half-broken feature.
- JoshTriplett 13y agoChrome has its own "native" flash implementation, maintained by Google; no reason they couldn't add a hook to notify the browser about audio playback.
- keeperofdakeys 13y agoIt isn't native, it's adobe flash player packaged with the browser. They have no more ways of telling it is using audio than a normal plugin.
- spyder 13y agoThe "-enable-audible-notifications" is working with flash audio and it is in chrome since months.
- mmhd 13y agoSoundcloud has done this from the beginning. Nothing new here, move along.
- hamburglar 13y agoBandcamp does it too (Soundcloud did it first, though), but it's still nice to see it catching on.
- dsuriano 13y agoThis is one thing I like about Safari. When you open a new tab it won't start playing the video until you select it.
- speeder 13y agoI wish there was a way to track who is making noise INSIDE a page. I have two issues, one is some news websites that autoplay videos on random parts of the page. The other, more annoying, is video websites (for example to watch fansubbed anime) that have ads that the ad author (not the side) somehow hidden it... Once I even found it, opening the inspector and looking around, but sometimes a page is ridicously complex that it is easy to just close it, and find another site.
- guidopallemans 13y agowhy don't they just change the red and white play-icon to a pause icon?
- raldi 13y agoChanging the title also helps people who open everything in new windows.
- citizenkeys 13y agoThis is a simple javascript that adds a unicode "▶" to the beginning of html page title. This can be easily coded using the youtube javascript api. Just add the following code when the youtube playstate changes to "YT.PlayerState.PLAYING". The js basically looks like this: function onPlayerStateChange(event) { var player = event.target; switch (event.data) { case YT.PlayerState.PLAYING: document.title = '▶' + document.title; break; } }
- jaredsohn 13y agoFYI, if you implement this code for real, you'll need to make sure the symbol doesn't get repeated upon multiple plays and that it gets removed when not playing. Edit: This is two different bugs. It means that if you are not playing, it will still look like it is playing and if you play multiple times, you will see the symbol get duplicated. Edit 2: Code should be like this: var documentTitle = document.title; function onPlayerStateChange(event) { var player = event.target; switch (event.data) { case YT.PlayerState.PLAYING: document.title = '▶' + documentTitle; break; default: document.title = documentTitle } } but it assumes that the document title doesn't otherwise change.
- citizenkeys 13y agoIn practice, the youtube api has other cases in that switch expression (ENDED, PAUSED, etc). For those, you would use the following in their case statement: document.title = document.title.replace("\u25B6",""); And to revise my original code, this is what you could use in the PLAYING statement to prevent multiple play symbols: document.title = "\u25B6" + document.title.replace("\u25B6",""); Notice, too, that I replaced the "▶" with the appropriate javascript encoding.
- artursapek 13y agoThat's two ways of saying the same thing
- drivebyacct2 13y agoOr just turn on click-to-run and never have this problem on any website.
- ndesaulniers 13y agoI just noticed this watching Carmack's Quake Con talks!
- iamshs 13y agoThis is a welcome change. But now my youtube history URLs in awesome bar of FF all have the unicode character of the "play" sign. Can there be a more elegant implementation, and even click to play plugin won't have any effect as this poster notes [1]. [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6153349 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6153349
- mkartic 13y agoI wish they'd fix the buffering issues.
- frncscgmz 13y agoI'm a little disappointed. When I noticed the play icon on the tab I rejoiced and thought that was an actual control for pausing/resuming on the tab. Sadly that wasn't the case.
- mbesto 13y agoHypem has had this feature for a long time now! Very cool: http://hypem.com/ http://hypem.com/
- netmute 13y agoHow about not autoplaying the video as soon as I open the page? I frequently open multiple pages in background tabs and Youtube makes this rather annoying.
- spyder 13y agoOr it should play only when you switch to the tab.
- tbirdz 13y agoHow long until "Method for adding an indicator to show if a web page is playing audio" is patented?
- dep_b 13y agoI really don't know why I still have to suffer from unmutable Flash, immediately starting music and videos without any possibility to have it to shut up by default. Just ask me: This page wants to play audio, would you like to hear it? Yes / No [V] Remember for the next times The funny thing is that soundcloud and youtube behave very well in this respect. Apparently the biggest audio sites (just look at the amount of music on youtube!) don't need to start blasting without any user interaction.
- jsmeaton 13y agoClick-to-play plugins in browser settings not enough?