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We're not talking fire-and-forget software here so that's a very long delay to catch up to. On one hand, I'm glad this isn't going into obscurity (hopefully).

by eksith 13y ago

We're not talking fire-and-forget software here so that's a very long delay to catch up to. On one hand, I'm glad this isn't going into obscurity (hopefully). I don't like to see projects fade and die out completely simply due to neglect. On the other, I can't see how this will become relevant anytime soon for any new project or even existing one. For that matter, I'm seeing fewer instances where Apache itself is still relevant in new projects these days. From simple file serving to complex web apps, Nginx has pretty much taken over by and large, so unless Apache can show how it can remain competitive when the smaller upstart stays lean and fast, it's stuck right out of the gate. I think it may be time Apache itself branches out to a leaner version (with the kitchen sink build available separately) that's as bare-bones as possible with basic functionality that can still be easily extended by modules later. Of course, it's always good to have other options available. Homogeneity is rather boring. For now the main goal is to re-establish the community... This will be an interesting challenge in an of itself. I'm curious to see how this will pan out and I wish him the best of luck.

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pekk 13y ago
mod_python already went into obscurity long ago, that is why this is generating puzzlement.
j-kidd 13y ago
Apache, while not hipster-compatible, is still very much alive. > I think it may be time Apache itself branches out to a leaner version (with the kitchen sink build available separately) that's as bare-bones as possible with basic functionality that can still be easily extended by modules later. Right. Here's a binary size comparison between Apache 2.4.6 and Nginx 1.4.1: ~ $ ls -l /usr/sbin/apache2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 580528 Jul 26 13:23 /usr/sbin/apache2 ~ $ ls -l /usr/sbin/nginx -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 661264 May 24 07:42 /usr/sbin/nginx Apache is totally modular. Going from Apache to Nginx would be a downgrade for me.
- eksith 13y ago
  When I was referring to "leaner", I was referring to the apparent ease with which Nginx serves while Apache was having difficulty in the same setup (it's quite silly to compare binary sizes). I'm not sure if that makes it not "hipster-compatible" any more than not as performance compatible while running on the same iron and facing the same load. Also of note, as teilo mentions (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6151215 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6151215), sometimes you want to decouple the app/scripting engine from the web server. FYI, current stack is OpenBSD, Nginx, PHP-FPM and Postgres. Does that make us hipsters?

by eksith 13y ago

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pekk 13y ago

mod_python already went into obscurity long ago, that is why this is generating puzzlement.

j-kidd 13y ago

Apache, while not hipster-compatible, is still very much alive. > I think it may be time Apache itself branches out to a leaner version (with the kitchen sink build available separately) that's as bare-bones as possible with basic functionality that can still be easily extended by modules later. Right. Here's a binary size comparison between Apache 2.4.6 and Nginx 1.4.1: ~ $ ls -l /usr/sbin/apache2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 580528 Jul 26 13:23 /usr/sbin/apache2 ~ $ ls -l /usr/sbin/nginx -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 661264 May 24 07:42 /usr/sbin/nginx Apache is totally modular. Going from Apache to Nginx would be a downgrade for me.

eksith 13y ago
When I was referring to "leaner", I was referring to the apparent ease with which Nginx serves while Apache was having difficulty in the same setup (it's quite silly to compare binary sizes). I'm not sure if that makes it not "hipster-compatible" any more than not as performance compatible while running on the same iron and facing the same load. Also of note, as teilo mentions (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6151215 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6151215), sometimes you want to decouple the app/scripting engine from the web server. FYI, current stack is OpenBSD, Nginx, PHP-FPM and Postgres. Does that make us hipsters?