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Sweet. So let's just test everyone at birth, then discard those that don't make the cut. That way, we'll be able to keep health costs sufficiently low. Should

by sdurkin 17y ago

Sweet. So let's just test everyone at birth, then discard those that don't make the cut. That way, we'll be able to keep health costs sufficiently low. Should be easy once we liberalize the laws on abortion. Hmm... but people might object to their less fit children being eliminated.... Better not tell them. We'll just let the Doctors make the decisions. They always know best anyway. After all, why else would we give them white coats? "Genetic fitness" was at the heart of every terrible ideology of the past century. Watch out for this type of thinking. Its the first step to a place you don't want to be....

tokenadult 17y ago
"Genetic fitness" was at the heart of every terrible ideology of the past century. Yes. And "genetic fitness" is very ill-defined here.
mynameishere 17y ago
"Genetic fitness" was at the heart of every terrible ideology of the past century. Except for the worst.
KirinDave 17y ago
> "Genetic fitness" was at the heart of every terrible ideology of the past century. Watch out for this type of thinking. Its the first step to a place you don't want to be.... Uhh, what? I can't believe no one here has challenged you on this. There are lots of terrible ideologies that have nothing to do with genetics or genetic fitness. And then there are ideologies that carry out racist agendas in the name of something vaguely genetic, but in reality are just one group of people scapegoating and killing a group that looks different. It's hard to imagine Genetic Fitness seldom plays a part in the day to day thinking of people executing pogrom. And westerners by the stadiumload have given their doctors permission to engage in genetic fitness decisions with human lives, attempting to select the most viable embryos (and increasingly as the technology matures, the embryos with the greatest chance of expressing desired traits). Heck, these doctors abort fetuses by the half-dozen at a time by a selection process that's half-chance, a bit of science and the parent's biases and preferences. It's called In Vitro Fertilization, and society hasn't come crashing around our ears just yet. What's truly dangerous and most likely to result in immediate violence is reactionary genetics = eugenics statements and people who equate any kind of genetic fitness propositions with Hitler.
yummyfajitas 17y ago
Reverse mussollini fallacy. Mussollini also made the trains go on time, so that must be bad, right? "Genetic fitness" as a theory may or may not be true. But the fact that the Nazis based their ideology on itdoes not make it false. Incidentally, every terrible ideology? Including communism and radical islam?
- electromagnetic 17y ago
  Awesome, let's compare communism to terrorists! Let's edit the history books and paint some explosive jackets onto those philosophers. God forbid the working class ever took it upon themselves to get what they needed by communism or by unionism, it's so patently disgusting is it? I suppose you'd have been one of the people fighting tooth and limb to keep shanghaiing legal. God forbid people actually want to work for fair compensation for their work. DISGUSTING!

by sdurkin 17y ago

tokenadult 17y ago

"Genetic fitness" was at the heart of every terrible ideology of the past century. Yes. And "genetic fitness" is very ill-defined here.

mynameishere 17y ago

"Genetic fitness" was at the heart of every terrible ideology of the past century. Except for the worst.

KirinDave 17y ago

> "Genetic fitness" was at the heart of every terrible ideology of the past century. Watch out for this type of thinking. Its the first step to a place you don't want to be.... Uhh, what? I can't believe no one here has challenged you on this. There are lots of terrible ideologies that have nothing to do with genetics or genetic fitness. And then there are ideologies that carry out racist agendas in the name of something vaguely genetic, but in reality are just one group of people scapegoating and killing a group that looks different. It's hard to imagine Genetic Fitness seldom plays a part in the day to day thinking of people executing pogrom. And westerners by the stadiumload have given their doctors permission to engage in genetic fitness decisions with human lives, attempting to select the most viable embryos (and increasingly as the technology matures, the embryos with the greatest chance of expressing desired traits). Heck, these doctors abort fetuses by the half-dozen at a time by a selection process that's half-chance, a bit of science and the parent's biases and preferences. It's called In Vitro Fertilization, and society hasn't come crashing around our ears just yet. What's truly dangerous and most likely to result in immediate violence is reactionary genetics = eugenics statements and people who equate any kind of genetic fitness propositions with Hitler.

yummyfajitas 17y ago

Reverse mussollini fallacy. Mussollini also made the trains go on time, so that must be bad, right? "Genetic fitness" as a theory may or may not be true. But the fact that the Nazis based their ideology on itdoes not make it false. Incidentally, every terrible ideology? Including communism and radical islam?

electromagnetic 17y ago
Awesome, let's compare communism to terrorists! Let's edit the history books and paint some explosive jackets onto those philosophers. God forbid the working class ever took it upon themselves to get what they needed by communism or by unionism, it's so patently disgusting is it? I suppose you'd have been one of the people fighting tooth and limb to keep shanghaiing legal. God forbid people actually want to work for fair compensation for their work. DISGUSTING!