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you are just reinforcing what hes saying.. those things shouldnt need to have prizes in Money to people start working on it.. the point being maded by ultimoo

you are just reinforcing what hes saying.. those things shouldnt need to have prizes in Money to people start working on it.. the point being maded by ultimoo (and i agree with it) is that WE need to change the way we think about things.. the way we are.. we need to change our prizes, and become happy with other sort of payments.. (like be happy to help others to have a better life) if we get to manage to have a income to our needs, and do what we like.. be happy with it, and help others in the process.. what could be better than that? Is such a waste to have so many bright people working to make rich people even more richier, while there are so many simple needs that all of those good brains could be helping to solve.. there are people that doesnt even have basci needs like water, food security, eletricity, education, dignity, etc.. meanwhile all the rich people problems "how i can get even more rich?" get all the brains working for it.. doesnt it say something about us all?

icelancer 13y ago
>doesnt it say something about us all? That we're utilitarian in nature? This isn't exactly Nobel-prize winning stuff. The idea that we collect money and this is greedy or inherently bad is a highly personal view. Besides, what about Bill Gates and others who are donating their fortunes to do EXACTLY what you two ask? You're also ignoring the fact that "getting richer" is not the enemy of "doing good."
- oscargrouch 13y ago
  I have nothing against somebody making a fortune, at least through hard work, and by creating value to society, like Bill Gates did.. but there are parts of "getting richer" that can really do harm.. drugs? corruption? greedy banks? Im all the way for the "good capital", and thats the one that creates goods and value to us all.. acomplished people should have sucess, this is cool.. but i see a lot of the "get rich first, donate later" much people praise.. but in the majority of cases.. this is just a way they can feel good about themselves.. but in the end it will just create more greedy people that doe more harm than good.. the beginings, and true intentions always count.. easy money without real value, is what corrupts our society, and worse.. make the dollar created by value of the real working people (and i include bill gates/steve jobs in that list) less valuable.. thats all about the 2008 crysis.. its the same evil root.. but see the guys behind it.. and how they use to make money
  - icelancer 13y ago
    What "corrupts" our society has nothing to do with money and everything to do with utility. We evolved to seek greater utility in all forms it takes shape. That is not something you can erase from our psyche.

icelancer 13y ago

>doesnt it say something about us all? That we're utilitarian in nature? This isn't exactly Nobel-prize winning stuff. The idea that we collect money and this is greedy or inherently bad is a highly personal view. Besides, what about Bill Gates and others who are donating their fortunes to do EXACTLY what you two ask? You're also ignoring the fact that "getting richer" is not the enemy of "doing good."

oscargrouch 13y ago
I have nothing against somebody making a fortune, at least through hard work, and by creating value to society, like Bill Gates did.. but there are parts of "getting richer" that can really do harm.. drugs? corruption? greedy banks? Im all the way for the "good capital", and thats the one that creates goods and value to us all.. acomplished people should have sucess, this is cool.. but i see a lot of the "get rich first, donate later" much people praise.. but in the majority of cases.. this is just a way they can feel good about themselves.. but in the end it will just create more greedy people that doe more harm than good.. the beginings, and true intentions always count.. easy money without real value, is what corrupts our society, and worse.. make the dollar created by value of the real working people (and i include bill gates/steve jobs in that list) less valuable.. thats all about the 2008 crysis.. its the same evil root.. but see the guys behind it.. and how they use to make money
- icelancer 13y ago
  What "corrupts" our society has nothing to do with money and everything to do with utility. We evolved to seek greater utility in all forms it takes shape. That is not something you can erase from our psyche.