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It was a bit surreal to see two of my HN comments in a blog post on the front page of HN. Since people are interested, here's another tale of my year running a
by willholloway 13y ago
It was a bit surreal to see two of my HN comments in a blog post on the front page of HN.
Since people are interested, here's another tale of my year running affiliate campaigns on Facebook.
By the time I got into the game the competition was already heating up. I spent most of my efforts scaling my dating site campaigns internationally because global traffic was a far more fertile field, with less competition and cheaper clicks.
After I had maxed out all the nations of the English speaking world, I started running campaigns in France (and I unwittingly and unintentionally advertised hard core porn on Facebook in France for at least a month because of the geographic based redirect of the dating site I was advertising, with a US based IP you saw a tame site, with a French IP explicit hardcore porn)
My greatest success however was in expanding my operation to Latin America.
In the industry the concept of banner blindness is crucial to understand. Click through rates go down over time, both for individual ads and for entire nations. Because a site like Facebook wants to maximize its CPM, higher click through rates are the way to get cheaper clicks and profit.
I took my profitable ads in English and ran them through Google translate into Spanish. It was something simple like "Meet Hot Girls".
The hardest part was finding a dating site that accepted South American traffic. Credit cards and e-commerce have a ways to go in the global South, and therefore the traffic is of much lower value because it converts much less.
I found a tame version of Adult Friend Finder without any nudity on it's landing page. At the time Friend Finder Networks stated that they accepted traffic from almost all of the South American countries.
The first day I ran my campaigns in Columbia & Venezuela the response was incredible. Just astounding.
In an English speaking country you would be lucky to get three people out of a thousand to click on one of your ads. That first day in Columbia I was getting ten people out of a thousand to click and the clicks just cost one penny each!
I was converting at a rate that Friend Finder was paying me 14 cents per click and in that first day I made over $5000 with very little ad spend.
A small ad spend was important because I had to pay FB daily but was only paid out every two weeks and I was just out of college with very little credit.
I could have made so much more in those days with an American Express Plum card and unlimited credit.
As the South American ad campaigns went on the click through rates trended closer to the rates of their Western counterparts. It is for this reason I think I might have been the first person to run dating ads on Facebook in Columbia.
- mkrecny 13y agoThanks Will, I think you have some fascinating stories - please keep writing, and not just in the comments!
- willholloway 13y agoThank you very much. There is so much more to tell, the FTC SWAT raids, the cocaine addled pornographers, the Israelis and Oprah's lawsuit against 500 affiliates. I was smart, ethical and scared enough to see the hammer coming down on the industry and stayed out of all that mess, but I had a front row seat to the whole thing.
- johnward 13y agoYou would have to be a complete idiot to not see the hammer coming down on diet. Especially with those blog sites and use of oprah/dr oz/rachel ray without permission. The people profiting from it knew but took their chances. Some of them ended up paying the hard way like Jeremy Johnson.
- vijucat 13y ago> There is so much more to tell, the FTC SWAT raids, the cocaine addled pornographers, the Israelis and Oprah's lawsuit against 500 affiliates. If this weren't the affiliate marketing industry we're talking about, I would have thought that you were a pathological liar, the kind who makes up tall stories! :-) You should write a book.
- throwaway1979 13y agoThank you for the details. It seems I've been living under a rock and this is new to me. Just to make sure I understand ... the way this used to work is that you acted as an affiliate for another site (e.g. aff). They would pay you a commission for signups you generate. You then market on sites such as Facebook and get the affiliate fees. As an affiliate, one is sort of a marketing firm for the web site. However, people abuse this setup by misleading clicks/signups. Is this an accurate summary? Edit: Also, how does one learn about these affiliate programs? Word-of-mouth?