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In our industry( HFT ) generally, you sign all sorts of agreements which specifically prohibit you from taking any code whatsoever from your employer without sp

In our industry( HFT ) generally, you sign all sorts of agreements which specifically prohibit you from taking any code whatsoever from your employer without specific authorization to do so. Michael Lewis article almost makes it sound like its Goldman's fault. But the fact is, he signed agreements that prohibited him from doing stuff like this and then did it anyway

vasilipupkin 13y ago
if he really wanted to take only open source code, he could have cleared it with his managers and his compliance officer, and they would have let him take stuff that is clearly open source most likely.
- fnordfnordfnord 13y ago
  >if he really wanted to take only open source code, he could have cleared it with his managers and his compliance officer, and they would have let him take stuff that is clearly open source most likely. The VF story addressed that (page 4, near the bottom). According to Aleynikov, GS cared not a bit for the terms of the Open Source license and considered anything that ever made it into their systems as GS proprietary code.
  - ig1 13y ago
    With the vast majority of open source software licences (including the GPL) you're perfectly entitled to integrated it into your propriety code without releasing it if you're not distributing it externally. The only exception of any size is the Affero GPL but even that only applies if you use the code in an external customer facing service.
    - fnordfnordfnord 13y ago
      I probably should have phrased that more carefully. GS appears to care little for Open Source principles.
  - vasilipupkin 13y ago
    Yep - but in this case it's also something that they would have made very clear upfront and made him sign a document to show that he had understood those terms
candybar 13y ago
Violation of private agreements is typical a civil matter.
- jacalata 13y ago
  yea, ask Aaron Schwartz.
gclaramunt 13y ago
IANAL, but that wouldn't be just a breach of contract and not something for the FBI to investigate?

vasilipupkin 13y ago

if he really wanted to take only open source code, he could have cleared it with his managers and his compliance officer, and they would have let him take stuff that is clearly open source most likely.

fnordfnordfnord 13y ago
>if he really wanted to take only open source code, he could have cleared it with his managers and his compliance officer, and they would have let him take stuff that is clearly open source most likely. The VF story addressed that (page 4, near the bottom). According to Aleynikov, GS cared not a bit for the terms of the Open Source license and considered anything that ever made it into their systems as GS proprietary code.
- ig1 13y ago
  With the vast majority of open source software licences (including the GPL) you're perfectly entitled to integrated it into your propriety code without releasing it if you're not distributing it externally. The only exception of any size is the Affero GPL but even that only applies if you use the code in an external customer facing service.
  - fnordfnordfnord 13y ago
    I probably should have phrased that more carefully. GS appears to care little for Open Source principles.
- vasilipupkin 13y ago
  Yep - but in this case it's also something that they would have made very clear upfront and made him sign a document to show that he had understood those terms

candybar 13y ago

Violation of private agreements is typical a civil matter.

jacalata 13y ago
yea, ask Aaron Schwartz.

gclaramunt 13y ago

IANAL, but that wouldn't be just a breach of contract and not something for the FBI to investigate?