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Interesting. So you just forget about your rights, and accept abuse of them. You also think querying a situation is "combative"? Why use the word "lecturing"? W

by alan_cx 13y ago

Interesting. So you just forget about your rights, and accept abuse of them. You also think querying a situation is "combative"? Why use the word "lecturing"? Why not telling, or informing? Sound all a bit "do as you are told little boy, as I have a gun" to me. I suppose its consistent with US foreign policy. I suppose if the US gov expect to bully nation states around because the US has the most military power and can bomb folk back to the stone age if they don't comply, then treating its own citizens like that and expecting them to cower to the gun makes sense. As I say, it consistent at least. Gotta respect that.

magicalist 13y ago
What in the world? I love that you and mindcrime took "don't be rude to cops" and turned it into grovelling subservience to the police state. Let me guess, "don't be a dick" reads to you as "be fake and politically correct at all times"? Yes, we all know your type. You shouldn't be rude to cops for the same reason that you don't talk to cops: because if you catch one on a bad day who decides to charge you and then add a "resisting arrest" to the charge for fun (let alone shoot you...watch out in Oakland), you're going to have a bad time. The romance of civil disobedience might warm your heart, but the vast majority of false arrest incidents end with no compensation and no administrative action against the officer. You might get them out for a week on paid leave. Meanwhile you spent time in jail, you get your face on those mugshot sites, and all it takes is a DA waiting to make a name for themselves and suddenly you're being bankrupted in legal fees or praying to god the public defender isn't a complete moron. All because the cop asked you if he could search your car and you decided that a simple "no" would be "cowering to the gun" because you're fucking Robin Hood. Congratulations. You sound like you're not in the US, but if you'd like to learn more, watch the don't talk to police[1] video. For people that are in the US (and aren't merely engaging in the intellectually laziest of solipsisms like the above), remember to always refuse a search and ask if you're being detained. If not, leave immediately. If so, tell them that you won't be speaking again until an attorney is present. If you think "informing" the cop of your rights is a good idea in that moment, watch the video again. Don't talk to the police. [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
- mindcrime 13y ago
  Let me guess, "don't be a dick" reads to you as "be fake and politically correct at all times"? Sorry, no. Try again. and mindcrime took "don't be rude to cops" and turned it into grovelling subservience to the police state. Except I never said that. I don't know what you're on about, but whatever. I'm pretty satisfied with how my attitude has worked out for me to date.

by alan_cx 13y ago

magicalist 13y ago

What in the world? I love that you and mindcrime took "don't be rude to cops" and turned it into grovelling subservience to the police state. Let me guess, "don't be a dick" reads to you as "be fake and politically correct at all times"? Yes, we all know your type. You shouldn't be rude to cops for the same reason that you don't talk to cops: because if you catch one on a bad day who decides to charge you and then add a "resisting arrest" to the charge for fun (let alone shoot you...watch out in Oakland), you're going to have a bad time. The romance of civil disobedience might warm your heart, but the vast majority of false arrest incidents end with no compensation and no administrative action against the officer. You might get them out for a week on paid leave. Meanwhile you spent time in jail, you get your face on those mugshot sites, and all it takes is a DA waiting to make a name for themselves and suddenly you're being bankrupted in legal fees or praying to god the public defender isn't a complete moron. All because the cop asked you if he could search your car and you decided that a simple "no" would be "cowering to the gun" because you're fucking Robin Hood. Congratulations. You sound like you're not in the US, but if you'd like to learn more, watch the don't talk to police[1] video. For people that are in the US (and aren't merely engaging in the intellectually laziest of solipsisms like the above), remember to always refuse a search and ask if you're being detained. If not, leave immediately. If so, tell them that you won't be speaking again until an attorney is present. If you think "informing" the cop of your rights is a good idea in that moment, watch the video again. Don't talk to the police. [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

mindcrime 13y ago
Let me guess, "don't be a dick" reads to you as "be fake and politically correct at all times"? Sorry, no. Try again. and mindcrime took "don't be rude to cops" and turned it into grovelling subservience to the police state. Except I never said that. I don't know what you're on about, but whatever. I'm pretty satisfied with how my attitude has worked out for me to date.