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>After several weeks on the job...Bob had a TopSecret clearance. Top Secret clearance usually takes a few months. I'm comfortable with a world in which someone

>After several weeks on the job...Bob had a TopSecret clearance. Top Secret clearance usually takes a few months. I'm comfortable with a world in which someone who worked for an NSA subcontractor for several months being stuck with menial employment for the rest of their days. Sometimes it pays to have ethics.

Balgair 13y ago
My brother got a TS. It took him about a year to get the thing. He had no clue what the TS part of the company was like before 'stepping through the rabbit-hole.' He worked at the job just fine for a few years. One day, he said he knew he had to look for other work. It took him a few months to find a way to leave. Eventually, he just quit without any job at all. He has a job now, not nearly as glamorous but he is employed. Just because they work for a contractor for the NSA, or they have a TS or S or Q clearance, doesn't mean they are not very smart and hard working. Hell, you know they went through the ringer to prove they are trustworthy and loyal. Because they wanted to help out all of us here in the US and then they felt they could no longer, that does NOT mean they should be punished. What did they themselves do wrong? Besides, this is ONE program the NSA runs. Mostly likely the majority of the TS cleared people out there have nothing to do with all this stuff. Those people do make a lot of sacrifices for their job and for the US. A lot are multiply divorced because of the stress, the secrecy, and the unpredictability of the job. "Hey Sugar, gotta go. I can't tell you where, for how long, or if I will be safe, or talk about a really traumatizing experience afterwards so I'll drink hard liquor quietly on the back porch a lot. Pick the kids up at basketball, will yah?"
- peterkelly 13y ago
  > "Hey Sugar, gotta go. I can't tell you where, for how long, or if I will be safe, or talk about a really traumatizing experience afterwards so I'll drink hard liquor quietly on the back porch a lot. Pick the kids up at basketball, will yah?" In addition to the potential ethical issues, this is the second reason why I made the decision not to get involved with classified work (the majority of IT jobs in my hometown are at defence contractors). I simply couldn't handle not being able to talk to my family and friends about my work - especially if there were things that were causing me stress on the job.
bane 13y ago
I hope you're writing off all the employees in all the companies that also provided data then. Hell Google and Oracle were CIA funded at the beginning. Guess anybody who worked at those places or any of their contracting companies are out.

Balgair 13y ago

My brother got a TS. It took him about a year to get the thing. He had no clue what the TS part of the company was like before 'stepping through the rabbit-hole.' He worked at the job just fine for a few years. One day, he said he knew he had to look for other work. It took him a few months to find a way to leave. Eventually, he just quit without any job at all. He has a job now, not nearly as glamorous but he is employed. Just because they work for a contractor for the NSA, or they have a TS or S or Q clearance, doesn't mean they are not very smart and hard working. Hell, you know they went through the ringer to prove they are trustworthy and loyal. Because they wanted to help out all of us here in the US and then they felt they could no longer, that does NOT mean they should be punished. What did they themselves do wrong? Besides, this is ONE program the NSA runs. Mostly likely the majority of the TS cleared people out there have nothing to do with all this stuff. Those people do make a lot of sacrifices for their job and for the US. A lot are multiply divorced because of the stress, the secrecy, and the unpredictability of the job. "Hey Sugar, gotta go. I can't tell you where, for how long, or if I will be safe, or talk about a really traumatizing experience afterwards so I'll drink hard liquor quietly on the back porch a lot. Pick the kids up at basketball, will yah?"

peterkelly 13y ago
> "Hey Sugar, gotta go. I can't tell you where, for how long, or if I will be safe, or talk about a really traumatizing experience afterwards so I'll drink hard liquor quietly on the back porch a lot. Pick the kids up at basketball, will yah?" In addition to the potential ethical issues, this is the second reason why I made the decision not to get involved with classified work (the majority of IT jobs in my hometown are at defence contractors). I simply couldn't handle not being able to talk to my family and friends about my work - especially if there were things that were causing me stress on the job.

bane 13y ago

I hope you're writing off all the employees in all the companies that also provided data then. Hell Google and Oracle were CIA funded at the beginning. Guess anybody who worked at those places or any of their contracting companies are out.