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I love the idea of Soylent and I think it'll be a big success. One thing I'd love to see is a protein-fat-carb customizable version. That is, one person who is

I love the idea of Soylent and I think it'll be a big success. One thing I'd love to see is a protein-fat-carb customizable version. That is, one person who is building muscle should be able to get soylent that's 40-20-40, while someone doing a keto diet should be able to get a 30-60-10. Also, I didn't know they were the LevelRF guys. If any of the founders are reading, care to share why that startup didn't work out?

toomuchtodo 13y ago
Different colors Soylent? :)
- timdorr 13y ago
  This can probably be done with simple food coloring. The base mix doesn't have too extreme of a color to interfere with making it green or red or something else.
banachtarski 13y ago
As a person who lifts weights frequently, I'm not sure I like the idea of soy based protein in general though.
- korethr 13y ago
  This statement piques my curiosity. Why not?
  - anateus 13y ago
    Presumably due to the high phytoestrogen content of many soy products.
    - moocowduckquack 13y ago
      Food groups with decreasing levels of total phytoestrogens per 100 g are nuts and oilseeds, soy products, cereals and breads, legumes, meat products, and other processed foods that may contain soy, vegetables, fruits, alcoholic, and nonalcoholic beverages. Soy products contain the highest amounts of isoflavone, followed by legumes, meat products and other processed foods, cereals and breads, nuts and oilseeds, vegetables, alcoholic beverages, fruits, and nonalcoholic beverages. Decreasing amounts of lignans are found in nuts and oilseeds, cereals and breads, legumes, fruits, vegetables, soy products, processed foods, alcoholic, and nonalcoholic beverages. from here - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16898863 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16898863
  - WestCoastJustin 13y ago
    There was been suggestions that soy consumption in men can reduce testosterone and increase estrogen levels. There has even been some research done in this area [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]. [1] http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/16/4/829.abstract http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/16/4/829.abstract [2] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10798211 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10798211 [3] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11103227 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11103227 [4] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19524224 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19524224 [5] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17908338 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17908338
  - ergest 13y ago
    This is just a story but a friend of a friend who had been fed soy milk as a baby, developed all kinds of food allergies even from things like chocolate, sugar, etc. She can't eat anything!
  - lsc 13y ago
    'bro science' - apparently there's chemicals in soy that have similar names to estrogen. A bunch of people claim that's why Asians are 'less manly' or something. I've not seen any credible evidence that this is any more scientific than 'neuro linguistic programming' (or the idea that the average asian dude is 'less manly' for that matter.) On a more personal note, I'm a big white guy who looks like a big white guy who was raised on more soy than your average Asian dude (hippy parents.) I call bullshit.
    - oacgnol 13y ago
      Your being a big white guy visibly unaffected by soy is strictly anecdotal evidence - perhaps you aren't affected by it. The plain reality here is that we don't yet know the full effects of a diet high in soy has on the body, so I'd err on the side of letting studies come out with something more conclusive. In any case, shouldn't we be consuming within moderation anyways?
      - lsc 13y ago
        >The plain reality here is that we don't yet know the full effects of a diet high in soy has on the body you could replace the word 'soy' with 'meat' or 'eggs' or 'bread' there and the sentence would be equally true, and equally useless.
      - moocowduckquack 13y ago
        Well, soy is a staple part of the traditional Okinawa diet, so it can't be that bad.
- codemac 13y ago
  > The company has been posting updates of modifications to the Soylent formula, including changing the protein source to a vegan one derived from a rice or pea protein isolate. Well, it's not a soy protein source anyways... "soylent" is a cheeky reference to a film. As far as the "is soy protein good for you" debate, I'll stay out of that. EDIT: Not sure why this is being down modded. They've never had a soy protein source, they switched from whey to rice/peas.
lifeformed 13y ago
They should have premixed Soylent vending machines, and put them in business districts in cities. I bet workaholics would love to spend $5 to work through lunch without feeling hungry.
- jalada 13y ago
  Oh god, we're living in a sci-fi book. Welcome to City 17, it's safer here and we have soylent vending machines.
nandemo 13y ago
You probably don't need 40% of protein for building muscle. The known evidence points to 1.5g per kg of body mass (~=.75g/lb) being more than enough. In my case that works out to about 20%. I doubt that it would reach 40% unless you have a very unusual diet. http://mennohenselmans.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/ http://mennohenselmans.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-...

toomuchtodo 13y ago

Different colors Soylent? :)

timdorr 13y ago
This can probably be done with simple food coloring. The base mix doesn't have too extreme of a color to interfere with making it green or red or something else.

banachtarski 13y ago

As a person who lifts weights frequently, I'm not sure I like the idea of soy based protein in general though.

korethr 13y ago
This statement piques my curiosity. Why not?
- anateus 13y ago
  Presumably due to the high phytoestrogen content of many soy products.
  - moocowduckquack 13y ago
    Food groups with decreasing levels of total phytoestrogens per 100 g are nuts and oilseeds, soy products, cereals and breads, legumes, meat products, and other processed foods that may contain soy, vegetables, fruits, alcoholic, and nonalcoholic beverages. Soy products contain the highest amounts of isoflavone, followed by legumes, meat products and other processed foods, cereals and breads, nuts and oilseeds, vegetables, alcoholic beverages, fruits, and nonalcoholic beverages. Decreasing amounts of lignans are found in nuts and oilseeds, cereals and breads, legumes, fruits, vegetables, soy products, processed foods, alcoholic, and nonalcoholic beverages. from here - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16898863 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16898863
- WestCoastJustin 13y ago
  There was been suggestions that soy consumption in men can reduce testosterone and increase estrogen levels. There has even been some research done in this area [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]. [1] http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/16/4/829.abstract http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/16/4/829.abstract [2] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10798211 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10798211 [3] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11103227 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11103227 [4] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19524224 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19524224 [5] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17908338 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17908338
- ergest 13y ago
  This is just a story but a friend of a friend who had been fed soy milk as a baby, developed all kinds of food allergies even from things like chocolate, sugar, etc. She can't eat anything!
- lsc 13y ago
  'bro science' - apparently there's chemicals in soy that have similar names to estrogen. A bunch of people claim that's why Asians are 'less manly' or something. I've not seen any credible evidence that this is any more scientific than 'neuro linguistic programming' (or the idea that the average asian dude is 'less manly' for that matter.) On a more personal note, I'm a big white guy who looks like a big white guy who was raised on more soy than your average Asian dude (hippy parents.) I call bullshit.
  - oacgnol 13y ago
    Your being a big white guy visibly unaffected by soy is strictly anecdotal evidence - perhaps you aren't affected by it. The plain reality here is that we don't yet know the full effects of a diet high in soy has on the body, so I'd err on the side of letting studies come out with something more conclusive. In any case, shouldn't we be consuming within moderation anyways?
    - lsc 13y ago
      >The plain reality here is that we don't yet know the full effects of a diet high in soy has on the body you could replace the word 'soy' with 'meat' or 'eggs' or 'bread' there and the sentence would be equally true, and equally useless.
    - moocowduckquack 13y ago
      Well, soy is a staple part of the traditional Okinawa diet, so it can't be that bad.
codemac 13y ago
> The company has been posting updates of modifications to the Soylent formula, including changing the protein source to a vegan one derived from a rice or pea protein isolate. Well, it's not a soy protein source anyways... "soylent" is a cheeky reference to a film. As far as the "is soy protein good for you" debate, I'll stay out of that. EDIT: Not sure why this is being down modded. They've never had a soy protein source, they switched from whey to rice/peas.

lifeformed 13y ago

They should have premixed Soylent vending machines, and put them in business districts in cities. I bet workaholics would love to spend $5 to work through lunch without feeling hungry.

jalada 13y ago
Oh god, we're living in a sci-fi book. Welcome to City 17, it's safer here and we have soylent vending machines.

nandemo 13y ago

You probably don't need 40% of protein for building muscle. The known evidence points to 1.5g per kg of body mass (~=.75g/lb) being more than enough. In my case that works out to about 20%. I doubt that it would reach 40% unless you have a very unusual diet. http://mennohenselmans.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/ http://mennohenselmans.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-...