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What exactly did they actually (in an objective sense) do wrong though? If the only thing they did wrong was "failing to comply with regulations", then maybe t

by jamoes 13y ago

What exactly did they actually (in an objective sense) do wrong though? If the only thing they did wrong was "failing to comply with regulations", then maybe those regulations are wrong. The same way that googling certain terms isn't wrong, putting labels on bottles of liquid isn't wrong. And, if someone comes to your door with guns in their hand because of this, then they're in the wrong - not you. > You don't want to mess with the ATF. They are notorious for bringing down the hammer. Wow, the tone people use to describe these various gov't agencies just keep making them sound more and more like common gangsters...

refurb 13y ago
You won't get an argument from me that various federal agencies are riding the line of "gangsters". However wrong these agencies might be, the OP has to face the consequences. My guess is the ATF might knock on his door and give him a lesson on alcohol regulations, nothing more, but at least he should be aware of what the potential consequences are.
samtp 13y ago
> If the only thing they did wrong was "failing to comply with regulations", then maybe those regulations are wrong. Tell that to a judge. You sound like you are 14 years old. If you run a business, you should follow the laws of the nation the best you can since employees, investors, partners, and customers all depend on you.
- crygin 13y ago
  Like Uber doesn't? Obeying a dumb law might make your position more stable, but it eliminates the enormous potential return on choosing to behave outside the norm. Laws are just incentive structures, and subject to the same risk analysis as everything else.
gnaritas 13y ago
> putting labels on bottles of liquid isn't wrong. That's naive, it most certainly can be wrong and in this case it was. Alcohol regulations exist to protect the consumer and violating them is most definitely wrong.

by jamoes 13y ago

refurb 13y ago

You won't get an argument from me that various federal agencies are riding the line of "gangsters". However wrong these agencies might be, the OP has to face the consequences. My guess is the ATF might knock on his door and give him a lesson on alcohol regulations, nothing more, but at least he should be aware of what the potential consequences are.

samtp 13y ago

> If the only thing they did wrong was "failing to comply with regulations", then maybe those regulations are wrong. Tell that to a judge. You sound like you are 14 years old. If you run a business, you should follow the laws of the nation the best you can since employees, investors, partners, and customers all depend on you.

crygin 13y ago
Like Uber doesn't? Obeying a dumb law might make your position more stable, but it eliminates the enormous potential return on choosing to behave outside the norm. Laws are just incentive structures, and subject to the same risk analysis as everything else.

gnaritas 13y ago

> putting labels on bottles of liquid isn't wrong. That's naive, it most certainly can be wrong and in this case it was. Alcohol regulations exist to protect the consumer and violating them is most definitely wrong.