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It's not real. 1. They don't show up in black SUV's. 2. The FBI will ALWAYS be there. (NSA/CIA/Men In Black/etc cannot physically interact with american citiz

by mox69 13y ago

It's not real. 1. They don't show up in black SUV's. 2. The FBI will ALWAYS be there. (NSA/CIA/Men In Black/etc cannot physically interact with american citizens on US soil) 3. They don't show up in plain cloths. 4. They would have showed up with a SWAT team.

billybob255 13y ago
That seems like a lot of conjecture on your part.
homosaur 13y ago
Give evidence for any of this and maybe we can start discussing it. You've made 4 random statements with nothing to back it up. It would be important for savvy readers to remember that HN has government/NSA shills that lurk about. Be careful what you believe without evidence.
- steveklabnik 13y ago
  Especially given that this is a new account, with only this comment.
matznerd 13y ago
She is saying they are not from the FBI, but from the "joint terrorism task force" https://twitter.com/inthefade/status/362729458806960129 https://twitter.com/inthefade/status/362729458806960129
- jmccree 13y ago
  The JTTF isn't an agency, it's a task force lead by the FBI in a local region with membership of local and state law enforcement. First one was in NYC, there are now task forces in most major metro areas. Most states and major cities have anti-terrorism/homeland security departments of their police forces. The agents could have been any mix of FBI, ATF, State Police, Local Police etc.
ianstallings 13y ago
They do have black SUVs so I'm not sure why the objection there. The joint terrorism task force is the FBI, whose agents are typically in plain clothes and not in a uniform. And they were asking questions why would they need the SWAT team? For all you know those guys were staged around the corner like they normally do anyway. Wise up.
- mox69 13y ago
  she uses "join terrorism task force" 3 times in the blog post. She never mentions the FBI/police/government at all. In my opinion 99% of america has no idea what a joint terrorism task force is (its basically an internal law enforcement word, not publicly used) and would simply say "the feds" or "the government" showed up. Her using that specific word all over the place leads me to believe she is hiding something.
  - steveklabnik 13y ago
    She's not 99% of America, she's a writer who's been published in Forbes and BoingBoing, and has almost a million Twitter followers.
    - bas 13y ago
      She has a Forbes "site", which is not exactly the same thing as being a writer "for Forbes". She's really a blogger, not an editor or staff member at Forbes per se.
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  - darkarmani 13y ago
    > Her using that specific word all over the place leads me to believe she is hiding something. She researched what went on with her family? You just used the words also, so according to your "logic" you have something to hide. Perhaps that's why you created a new HN account?
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guruz 13y ago
Why not? The US has so many state and federal intelligence/terrorism/whatever agencies, I don't think those guys are just sitting in front of their XKeyscore :)
koudelka 13y ago
This is complete bullshit, I have first-hand experience with this. The FBI showed up with two black SUVs and one local police car. They were all in plain clothes except for the single uniformed police officer. There was no SWAT team (in my case).
- kabdib 13y ago
  Secret Service shows up in a bunch of black cars, too. At least they did in the cases I'm familiar with. I don't believe the story at all.
llamataboot 13y ago
I've had the FBI at my door twice in my life. In both cases they were dressed in plainclothes (business casual), showed their badges, and gave me their business cards after I refused to talk to them without a lawyer present (and never came back). No SWAT team, no brandishing of firearms (though they were armed). Scarily pleasant talk. (I don't remember what their cars were. Nice sedan I think, not SUV.) "Hello XXXX, We're here to ask a few questions about XXXX and were wondering if we could come in for a few minutes and talk with you" "I'd prefer not to talk to law enforcement without a lawyer present." "It's only a few questions, we won't take up too much of your time" Repeat with different niceties for awhile, no threats. Then, "Okay, I'm Special Agent XXX and here's my card if you change your mind" -- On the other hand I've been arrested twice by local cops for refusing to talk to them, often with a bit of, ermmm, physical persuasion involved. FBI are the smooth talking salesmen of the law enforcement world, at least when they want you to cooperate with them and don't have anything on you. They aren't really in the business of running around and cracking heads like your local beat cops. But this story was "just" a visit from local cops, local terrorism task force, I think

by mox69 13y ago

billybob255 13y ago

That seems like a lot of conjecture on your part.

homosaur 13y ago

Give evidence for any of this and maybe we can start discussing it. You've made 4 random statements with nothing to back it up. It would be important for savvy readers to remember that HN has government/NSA shills that lurk about. Be careful what you believe without evidence.

steveklabnik 13y ago
Especially given that this is a new account, with only this comment.

matznerd 13y ago

She is saying they are not from the FBI, but from the "joint terrorism task force" https://twitter.com/inthefade/status/362729458806960129 https://twitter.com/inthefade/status/362729458806960129

jmccree 13y ago
The JTTF isn't an agency, it's a task force lead by the FBI in a local region with membership of local and state law enforcement. First one was in NYC, there are now task forces in most major metro areas. Most states and major cities have anti-terrorism/homeland security departments of their police forces. The agents could have been any mix of FBI, ATF, State Police, Local Police etc.

ianstallings 13y ago

They do have black SUVs so I'm not sure why the objection there. The joint terrorism task force is the FBI, whose agents are typically in plain clothes and not in a uniform. And they were asking questions why would they need the SWAT team? For all you know those guys were staged around the corner like they normally do anyway. Wise up.

mox69 13y ago
she uses "join terrorism task force" 3 times in the blog post. She never mentions the FBI/police/government at all. In my opinion 99% of america has no idea what a joint terrorism task force is (its basically an internal law enforcement word, not publicly used) and would simply say "the feds" or "the government" showed up. Her using that specific word all over the place leads me to believe she is hiding something.
- steveklabnik 13y ago
  She's not 99% of America, she's a writer who's been published in Forbes and BoingBoing, and has almost a million Twitter followers.
  - bas 13y ago
    She has a Forbes "site", which is not exactly the same thing as being a writer "for Forbes". She's really a blogger, not an editor or staff member at Forbes per se.
- deleted 13y ago
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- darkarmani 13y ago
  > Her using that specific word all over the place leads me to believe she is hiding something. She researched what went on with her family? You just used the words also, so according to your "logic" you have something to hide. Perhaps that's why you created a new HN account?
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guruz 13y ago

Why not? The US has so many state and federal intelligence/terrorism/whatever agencies, I don't think those guys are just sitting in front of their XKeyscore :)

koudelka 13y ago

This is complete bullshit, I have first-hand experience with this. The FBI showed up with two black SUVs and one local police car. They were all in plain clothes except for the single uniformed police officer. There was no SWAT team (in my case).

kabdib 13y ago
Secret Service shows up in a bunch of black cars, too. At least they did in the cases I'm familiar with. I don't believe the story at all.

llamataboot 13y ago

I've had the FBI at my door twice in my life. In both cases they were dressed in plainclothes (business casual), showed their badges, and gave me their business cards after I refused to talk to them without a lawyer present (and never came back). No SWAT team, no brandishing of firearms (though they were armed). Scarily pleasant talk. (I don't remember what their cars were. Nice sedan I think, not SUV.) "Hello XXXX, We're here to ask a few questions about XXXX and were wondering if we could come in for a few minutes and talk with you" "I'd prefer not to talk to law enforcement without a lawyer present." "It's only a few questions, we won't take up too much of your time" Repeat with different niceties for awhile, no threats. Then, "Okay, I'm Special Agent XXX and here's my card if you change your mind" -- On the other hand I've been arrested twice by local cops for refusing to talk to them, often with a bit of, ermmm, physical persuasion involved. FBI are the smooth talking salesmen of the law enforcement world, at least when they want you to cooperate with them and don't have anything on you. They aren't really in the business of running around and cracking heads like your local beat cops. But this story was "just" a visit from local cops, local terrorism task force, I think