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The article doesn't seem to mention this, but there is another trick in these guys arsenals - fake news articles about their products. They build entire webpag

by M4v3R 13y ago

The article doesn't seem to mention this, but there is another trick in these guys arsenals - fake news articles about their products. They build entire webpages, along with side-stories and article comments that support their product. They look SO real that once I (and I consider myself pretty tech-savvy, having access to Internet for 15 years) fell for it briefly, and then had to explain it to my wife who stumbled upon them as well. I was truly impressed by amount of work these guys went through not only to write a pretty long science-looking article, but to build a whole (albeit pretty static) webpage and write realistic comment sections. Sadly, this whole effort is done to deceive other people.

chewxy 13y ago
Eventually they do one better, and actually produce content cheaply - aka Demand Media. Flogs and farticle sites are so 2006 though. Now they use markov chain based generators to generate sites based on content scraped off other sites.
- adambratt 13y ago
  More info on this? Hadn't heard of this being done other than through content spinners
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nadaviv 13y ago
> They build entire webpages, along with side-stories and article comments that support their product. A lot of those websites are created by affiliates, and not by the product owner. The affiliate commission for digital products is pretty high (75%-85% is quite common), and affiliates often create various review sites for the products they're promoting, or use existing sites they own and add reviews written by "users" of the product.
Anonymous238 13y ago
Fake product reviews are popular as well. They'll do a top 5 write-up where their product, or the one offering the highest paid commissions is first, followed by 4 real products in that niche that are well respected. For example, let's say teeth whitening. I don't know who tops the charts here, but let's say Crest Whitestrips is a big name. They'll list them as second, and say they're great. Then they bring in their loaded product for number one. "Don't get me wrong, Crest Whitestrips is one of the best products available, but I was completely surprised by XYZ. I have to say, after three weeks with the product, I think it offered similar results at half the price, and I found they better formed to my teeth, allowing for more comfort." Insert sales or referral link here.
rallison 13y ago
Indeed they do. I recently looked into a similar scam, although the starting point was a hacked email account that sent out links to everyone in the address book to a hacked wordpress install. It was interesting following the rabbit hole. Here is a quick write-up I did on that instance: This is what the original wordpress instance looked like (just the frontpage, which did not carry malicious content): http://i.imgur.com/FeCKUu9.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FeCKUu9.jpg - However, the malicious page on this wordpress instance redirects to a site named foxrxs, registered a day ago (as of this writing) http://whois.domaintools.com/foxrxs.com http://whois.domaintools.com/foxrxs.com - to "Gergo Czako" in Hungary. - The foxrxs site is made to look like Fox News, but it basically just tries to sell people "raspberry ultra drops" - a diet supplement: http://i.imgur.com/RHMxj7T.jpg http://i.imgur.com/RHMxj7T.jpg - Most of the links on foxrxs go to onlineslimdiet: http://i.imgur.com/e4tdYm1.png http://i.imgur.com/e4tdYm1.png - This site was also registered yesterday (as of this writing): http://whois.domaintools.com/onlineslimdiet.com http://whois.domaintools.com/onlineslimdiet.com - in this case to "Uta Kalb" in Germany. However, what is notable is both domains use exactly the same name servers: ns1.dnscentral.ru ns2.dnsmax.ru So, given the same exact registration date and same name servers, chances are, both are owned by the same entity. - And, this seems to be a common scam: http://www.complaintsboard.com/bycompany/raspberry-ultra-drops-a456219.html http://www.complaintsboard.com/bycompany/raspberry-ultra-dro... Basically, an email address is hacked one way or another, which then often links to a compromised wordpress blog. That redirects to a new domain that is made to look like fox news. The fake fox news site appears to endorse this miracle diet supplement, with all links pointing to another site where you can actually order the product. People apparently do receive the product, but I'm guessing the product itself is a scam. Nice way to make money - only $60 for two ounces of snake oil!
- M4v3R 13y ago
  > http://i.imgur.com/RHMxj7T.jpg http://i.imgur.com/RHMxj7T.jpg This is exactly what I had in mind. A web page stylized as a news website with an article that subtly points to some diet pills. If one didn't read the URL he could really fell for that.

by M4v3R 13y ago

chewxy 13y ago

Eventually they do one better, and actually produce content cheaply - aka Demand Media. Flogs and farticle sites are so 2006 though. Now they use markov chain based generators to generate sites based on content scraped off other sites.

adambratt 13y ago
More info on this? Hadn't heard of this being done other than through content spinners
- deleted 13y ago
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nadaviv 13y ago

> They build entire webpages, along with side-stories and article comments that support their product. A lot of those websites are created by affiliates, and not by the product owner. The affiliate commission for digital products is pretty high (75%-85% is quite common), and affiliates often create various review sites for the products they're promoting, or use existing sites they own and add reviews written by "users" of the product.

Anonymous238 13y ago

Fake product reviews are popular as well. They'll do a top 5 write-up where their product, or the one offering the highest paid commissions is first, followed by 4 real products in that niche that are well respected. For example, let's say teeth whitening. I don't know who tops the charts here, but let's say Crest Whitestrips is a big name. They'll list them as second, and say they're great. Then they bring in their loaded product for number one. "Don't get me wrong, Crest Whitestrips is one of the best products available, but I was completely surprised by XYZ. I have to say, after three weeks with the product, I think it offered similar results at half the price, and I found they better formed to my teeth, allowing for more comfort." Insert sales or referral link here.

rallison 13y ago

Indeed they do. I recently looked into a similar scam, although the starting point was a hacked email account that sent out links to everyone in the address book to a hacked wordpress install. It was interesting following the rabbit hole. Here is a quick write-up I did on that instance: This is what the original wordpress instance looked like (just the frontpage, which did not carry malicious content): http://i.imgur.com/FeCKUu9.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FeCKUu9.jpg - However, the malicious page on this wordpress instance redirects to a site named foxrxs, registered a day ago (as of this writing) http://whois.domaintools.com/foxrxs.com http://whois.domaintools.com/foxrxs.com - to "Gergo Czako" in Hungary. - The foxrxs site is made to look like Fox News, but it basically just tries to sell people "raspberry ultra drops" - a diet supplement: http://i.imgur.com/RHMxj7T.jpg http://i.imgur.com/RHMxj7T.jpg - Most of the links on foxrxs go to onlineslimdiet: http://i.imgur.com/e4tdYm1.png http://i.imgur.com/e4tdYm1.png - This site was also registered yesterday (as of this writing): http://whois.domaintools.com/onlineslimdiet.com http://whois.domaintools.com/onlineslimdiet.com - in this case to "Uta Kalb" in Germany. However, what is notable is both domains use exactly the same name servers: ns1.dnscentral.ru ns2.dnsmax.ru So, given the same exact registration date and same name servers, chances are, both are owned by the same entity. - And, this seems to be a common scam: http://www.complaintsboard.com/bycompany/raspberry-ultra-drops-a456219.html http://www.complaintsboard.com/bycompany/raspberry-ultra-dro... Basically, an email address is hacked one way or another, which then often links to a compromised wordpress blog. That redirects to a new domain that is made to look like fox news. The fake fox news site appears to endorse this miracle diet supplement, with all links pointing to another site where you can actually order the product. People apparently do receive the product, but I'm guessing the product itself is a scam. Nice way to make money - only $60 for two ounces of snake oil!

M4v3R 13y ago
> http://i.imgur.com/RHMxj7T.jpg http://i.imgur.com/RHMxj7T.jpg This is exactly what I had in mind. A web page stylized as a news website with an article that subtly points to some diet pills. If one didn't read the URL he could really fell for that.