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The traditional media is complicit. And it isn't some grand conspiracy either, they just share the same interests as the rest of the establishment, being part o

The traditional media is complicit. And it isn't some grand conspiracy either, they just share the same interests as the rest of the establishment, being part of (and/or owned by) the establishment themselves. There is good independent media that has been covering the story for years though. Here's a Democracy Now story from February 2005: http://www.democracynow.org/2005/2/10/no_place_to_hide_award_winning http://www.democracynow.org/2005/2/10/no_place_to_hide_award... Democracy Now has an incredible archive on this subject too. Right now it starts here: http://www.democracynow.org/topics/nsa/7 http://www.democracynow.org/topics/nsa/7 Specifically, they've done some great interviews with previous whistleblowers: http://www.democracynow.org/appearances/william_binney http://www.democracynow.org/appearances/william_binney http://www.democracynow.org/appearances/russell_tice http://www.democracynow.org/appearances/russell_tice http://www.democracynow.org/appearances/thomas_drake http://www.democracynow.org/appearances/thomas_drake http://www.democracynow.org/appearances/jesselyn_radack http://www.democracynow.org/appearances/jesselyn_radack Other interesting guests: http://www.democracynow.org/appearances/jacob_appelbaum http://www.democracynow.org/appearances/jacob_appelbaum http://www.democracynow.org/appearances/laura_poitras http://www.democracynow.org/appearances/laura_poitras http://www.democracynow.org/appearances/james_bamford http://www.democracynow.org/appearances/james_bamford

jjp9999 13y ago
Only when Jacob Appelbaum was at Wikileaks, they also allegedly stole people's data (through Tor networks). Assange has admitted it - http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/world/wikileaks-intercepted-private-communications-maintains-access-47274.html http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/world/wikileaks-intercepted-...
- griffordson 13y ago
  How is that relevant to the NSA story exactly? Are you saying that the Government vacuuming up any and all data it can, and granting internal and external analysts easy access to that data, is comparable to the owner of a private server analyzing the network traffic of their servers and networks? If you want to hold private server and network operators to a standard that restricts them from doing that you're going to have a bad time. And the purpose of Tor might be different than you imagine: https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#WhatIsTor https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#WhatIsTor Or are you just trying to discredit Appelbaum, Assange, and/or Wikileaks? Also, is that your article? Should you disclose that? And is there any reason you linked to it rather than the original New Yorker article here: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/06/07/100607fa_fact_khatchadourian?printable=true http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/06/07/100607fa_fact_...

jjp9999 13y ago

Only when Jacob Appelbaum was at Wikileaks, they also allegedly stole people's data (through Tor networks). Assange has admitted it - http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/world/wikileaks-intercepted-private-communications-maintains-access-47274.html http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/world/wikileaks-intercepted-...

griffordson 13y ago
How is that relevant to the NSA story exactly? Are you saying that the Government vacuuming up any and all data it can, and granting internal and external analysts easy access to that data, is comparable to the owner of a private server analyzing the network traffic of their servers and networks? If you want to hold private server and network operators to a standard that restricts them from doing that you're going to have a bad time. And the purpose of Tor might be different than you imagine: https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#WhatIsTor https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#WhatIsTor Or are you just trying to discredit Appelbaum, Assange, and/or Wikileaks? Also, is that your article? Should you disclose that? And is there any reason you linked to it rather than the original New Yorker article here: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/06/07/100607fa_fact_khatchadourian?printable=true http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/06/07/100607fa_fact_...