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That much protein is insane! I guess if you're young and your kidneys can take it, more power to you. If you're worried about longevity, though, I'd swap out

by xiaoma 17y ago

That much protein is insane! I guess if you're young and your kidneys can take it, more power to you. If you're worried about longevity, though, I'd swap out about 3/4 of that meat with rice. The longest lived people, the Japanese get over 80% of their calories from carbohydrates, and over half from rice alone. They're also the thinnest of all economically developed people in the world and have low rates of heart disease. Here in Taiwan, it's similar, but as the restaurant scene has become more Americanized, more and more young people are having those problems. All those steaks take a toll.

gaius 17y ago
That "protein is bad for your kidneys" meme is a myth, the "research" was all funded by Kellogg's so people would switch from eggs for breakfast. Yes it is true that a high protein diet will exacerbate existing kidney disease, but a healthy adult drinking enough water per day will have no trouble at all with 1-1.5g/lb of bodyweight.
- silentbicycle 17y ago
  Interesting. Can you cite that point about Kellogg?
  - gaius 17y ago
    His book, "The Natural Diet of Man" started it, but his corporation perpetuated it.
- xiaoma 17y ago
  From the European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2007) 61, 575–581: "higher intake of carbohydrates was associated with significant reduction of total mortality, whereas higher intake of protein was associated with nonsignificant increase of total mortality (per decile, mortality ratios 0.94 with 95% CI 0.89 –0.99, and 1.02 with 95% CI 0.98 –1.07 respectively). Even more predictive of higher mortality were high values of the additive low carbohydrate–high protein score (per 5 units, mortality ratio 1.22 with 95% CI 1.09 –to 1.36). Positive associations of this score were noted with respect to both cardiovascular and cancer mortality. Conclusion: Prolonged consumption of diets low in carbohydrates and high in protein is associated with an increase in total mortality." http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v61/n5/abs/1602557a.html http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v61/n5/abs/1602557a.html

by xiaoma 17y ago

gaius 17y ago

That "protein is bad for your kidneys" meme is a myth, the "research" was all funded by Kellogg's so people would switch from eggs for breakfast. Yes it is true that a high protein diet will exacerbate existing kidney disease, but a healthy adult drinking enough water per day will have no trouble at all with 1-1.5g/lb of bodyweight.

silentbicycle 17y ago
Interesting. Can you cite that point about Kellogg?
- gaius 17y ago
  His book, "The Natural Diet of Man" started it, but his corporation perpetuated it.
xiaoma 17y ago
From the European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2007) 61, 575–581: "higher intake of carbohydrates was associated with significant reduction of total mortality, whereas higher intake of protein was associated with nonsignificant increase of total mortality (per decile, mortality ratios 0.94 with 95% CI 0.89 –0.99, and 1.02 with 95% CI 0.98 –1.07 respectively). Even more predictive of higher mortality were high values of the additive low carbohydrate–high protein score (per 5 units, mortality ratio 1.22 with 95% CI 1.09 –to 1.36). Positive associations of this score were noted with respect to both cardiovascular and cancer mortality. Conclusion: Prolonged consumption of diets low in carbohydrates and high in protein is associated with an increase in total mortality." http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v61/n5/abs/1602557a.html http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v61/n5/abs/1602557a.html