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There are another one simple explanation of why it is so beautiful to travel alone - when you are walking alone you can see, instead of being involved in endles

by c00p3r 17y ago

There are another one simple explanation of why it is so beautiful to travel alone - when you are walking alone you can see, instead of being involved in endless and useless chating. The Buddha said 'If you do not have a company of the wise - walk alone'. It seems like the motto of a introverts.

omarchowdhury 17y ago
What the fuck is this self righteous thing that people have over others that they come to such generalizations? Seriously, I saw it in that meditation article too. Is there not a perspective to be gained from the people who produce "endless and useless chatting" (Also you do not know the context of people's chats. Nor do you know why they are chatting. Nor do you know how this chatting makes them feel. Nor do you know what is going to come out of this chatting. It is not fair to call it useless and endless.)? How can one be wise if one shuns oneself from whatever one thinks and feels is activity below them? Having a specific criteria as to what is considered "wise" is also pretty fucking stupid.
- RiderOfGiraffes 17y ago
  Wow, time to switch to decaf. I'll address what points I can find, though. Note these, like those in the article, are personal opinions. Often these are given to help others understand a different point of view. I hope you take that into consideration. I agreed with pretty much everything in the article. I'm often forced by non-optional social convention to spend time with others. Frequently I find their chatter incomprehensible, irrelevant, content-free, trivial, or some combination of these. There is an occasional gem, but on the whole, the return is pretty poor. I'm sure these people are doing something they find useful and rewarding, but I feel that I shouldn't be forced into the position of having to tolerate it. Why should their preferences hold over mine? Why shouldn't I be left in the peace I crave, and let them chatter with others that appreciate and benefit from it? No, I get forced to join in. I don't think or feel that it's below me. Perhaps it's above me! What I do know after years of being forced to endure it is that it doesn't benefit me, and life's too short to do things of such poor return. This isn't a judgement of their worth - it's a recognition of my traits. I'd guess you're about 18 to 20 years of age and have your whole life ahead of you to figure out what works for you and what doesn't. You should make sure you get a wide range of experience. I, on the other hand, probably have around 10,000 productive days left, and I really don't want to waste them. Please, don't make me.
- randallsquared 17y ago
  Um, he did say being involved in the chatting. So, presumably, he's well aware of why they are chatting and what it's about. I find that this is true of me, too. I get drawn into all kinds of conversations in person which are ultimately useful only for being friendly and producing a friendly atmosphere. This isn't completely useless (and is sometimes very important!), but it's also astonishing how often I look back at long conversations I had and wish I could get that time back, because the whole conversation was about nothing in particular.
- pohl 17y ago
  If you wish to understand, I highly recommend Jonathan Rauch's excellent and amusing essay in The Atlantic (March 2003) -- very easy to google for -- "Caring for Your Introvert". One of his opinions in the essay is that introverts tend to think before speaking, and extroverts tend to think _by_ speaking. So, from that perspective, an extrovert is kind of like a DoS attack against an introvert's nervous system. It's not about superiority or inferiority. It's about a fundamental asymmetry in the modes of discourse: sound can be imposing, while silence almost never is.

by c00p3r 17y ago

omarchowdhury 17y ago

What the fuck is this self righteous thing that people have over others that they come to such generalizations? Seriously, I saw it in that meditation article too. Is there not a perspective to be gained from the people who produce "endless and useless chatting" (Also you do not know the context of people's chats. Nor do you know why they are chatting. Nor do you know how this chatting makes them feel. Nor do you know what is going to come out of this chatting. It is not fair to call it useless and endless.)? How can one be wise if one shuns oneself from whatever one thinks and feels is activity below them? Having a specific criteria as to what is considered "wise" is also pretty fucking stupid.

RiderOfGiraffes 17y ago
Wow, time to switch to decaf. I'll address what points I can find, though. Note these, like those in the article, are personal opinions. Often these are given to help others understand a different point of view. I hope you take that into consideration. I agreed with pretty much everything in the article. I'm often forced by non-optional social convention to spend time with others. Frequently I find their chatter incomprehensible, irrelevant, content-free, trivial, or some combination of these. There is an occasional gem, but on the whole, the return is pretty poor. I'm sure these people are doing something they find useful and rewarding, but I feel that I shouldn't be forced into the position of having to tolerate it. Why should their preferences hold over mine? Why shouldn't I be left in the peace I crave, and let them chatter with others that appreciate and benefit from it? No, I get forced to join in. I don't think or feel that it's below me. Perhaps it's above me! What I do know after years of being forced to endure it is that it doesn't benefit me, and life's too short to do things of such poor return. This isn't a judgement of their worth - it's a recognition of my traits. I'd guess you're about 18 to 20 years of age and have your whole life ahead of you to figure out what works for you and what doesn't. You should make sure you get a wide range of experience. I, on the other hand, probably have around 10,000 productive days left, and I really don't want to waste them. Please, don't make me.
randallsquared 17y ago
Um, he did say being involved in the chatting. So, presumably, he's well aware of why they are chatting and what it's about. I find that this is true of me, too. I get drawn into all kinds of conversations in person which are ultimately useful only for being friendly and producing a friendly atmosphere. This isn't completely useless (and is sometimes very important!), but it's also astonishing how often I look back at long conversations I had and wish I could get that time back, because the whole conversation was about nothing in particular.
pohl 17y ago
If you wish to understand, I highly recommend Jonathan Rauch's excellent and amusing essay in The Atlantic (March 2003) -- very easy to google for -- "Caring for Your Introvert". One of his opinions in the essay is that introverts tend to think before speaking, and extroverts tend to think _by_ speaking. So, from that perspective, an extrovert is kind of like a DoS attack against an introvert's nervous system. It's not about superiority or inferiority. It's about a fundamental asymmetry in the modes of discourse: sound can be imposing, while silence almost never is.