Well, actually, they had a few kicks at Zune (2, I still love my HD) before launching Windows Phone, which would have been the 3rd kick, which is normally when

Well, actually, they had a few kicks at Zune (2, I still love my HD) before launching Windows Phone, which would have been the 3rd kick, which is normally when they get it right. At this point, they're at kick 2 on the Phone, and making progress, but still have a long way to go.