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In a war of large corporations with nearly-unlimited resources against someone who just wants to listen to some music, I'll take the someone who just wants to l

In a war of large corporations with nearly-unlimited resources against someone who just wants to listen to some music, I'll take the someone who just wants to listen to some music every time. I'm a fan of the underdog, especially one who's had progressively more power removed from their bailiwick -- fair use? Almost gone. Time-shifting? They'd take that away if they could. DMCA? What a travesty. Time the balance shifts the other way for a while.

daeken 17y ago
I agree, I just dislike all of this being linked to the free software community, and dislike the hypocrisy of a good portion of the community with respect to copyright.
gustavo_duarte 17y ago
You mean 'just wants to listen to some music' _without paying for it_. Regarding the DMCA and fair use restrictions, I agree it's something we must fight against, but I don't think piracy is an effective way to go about it.
- anigbrowl 17y ago
  Arguably not: http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2009/04/study-pirates-buy-tons-more-music-than-average-folks.ars http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2009/04/study-pirates-buy-... One reason that people listen to music for free online (which I usually do via YouTube) is because the selection of music on radio is dreadful - most commercial radio is owned by the same handful of companies, and it's the same greatest hits mixed in with the latest heavy rotation day-in day-out. I don't even own a radio any more - and as an ex-DJ, I am pretty sure I have spent far more on music than you will in your whole lifetime.
  - gustavo_duarte 17y ago
    I wouldn't make personal assumptions like this. I might be a DJ myself. ;) Regarding the study, the results are in line with my expectations. Several of my friends are DJs and other art-loving people, who all download and buy massive amounts of stuff. The correlation between P2P downloads and buying strikes me as natural. There's no doubt the major labels have played a pretty rotten game and also got the Internet completely wrong. I want to see services that allow us to sample and listen to music without paying for it, allowing people to sample a large number of tracks and hopefully buy a fraction of those. I'd love to see decentralized distribution in such a way as to pay artists more and encourage creativity. But I don't think piracy is the answer.
- quoderat 17y ago
  No. I have both downloaded and bought far more music than most people on this site. I no longer own my massive collection of 3,000+ CDs -- they got stolen -- but have rebuilt it up to about 500. I've also probably downloaded 1TB+ of music over the years, so I could give it a good listen before I bought anything. Not to mention the hundreds of concerts I've attended over the years....

daeken 17y ago

I agree, I just dislike all of this being linked to the free software community, and dislike the hypocrisy of a good portion of the community with respect to copyright.

gustavo_duarte 17y ago

You mean 'just wants to listen to some music' _without paying for it_. Regarding the DMCA and fair use restrictions, I agree it's something we must fight against, but I don't think piracy is an effective way to go about it.

anigbrowl 17y ago
Arguably not: http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2009/04/study-pirates-buy-tons-more-music-than-average-folks.ars http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2009/04/study-pirates-buy-... One reason that people listen to music for free online (which I usually do via YouTube) is because the selection of music on radio is dreadful - most commercial radio is owned by the same handful of companies, and it's the same greatest hits mixed in with the latest heavy rotation day-in day-out. I don't even own a radio any more - and as an ex-DJ, I am pretty sure I have spent far more on music than you will in your whole lifetime.
- gustavo_duarte 17y ago
  I wouldn't make personal assumptions like this. I might be a DJ myself. ;) Regarding the study, the results are in line with my expectations. Several of my friends are DJs and other art-loving people, who all download and buy massive amounts of stuff. The correlation between P2P downloads and buying strikes me as natural. There's no doubt the major labels have played a pretty rotten game and also got the Internet completely wrong. I want to see services that allow us to sample and listen to music without paying for it, allowing people to sample a large number of tracks and hopefully buy a fraction of those. I'd love to see decentralized distribution in such a way as to pay artists more and encourage creativity. But I don't think piracy is the answer.
quoderat 17y ago
No. I have both downloaded and bought far more music than most people on this site. I no longer own my massive collection of 3,000+ CDs -- they got stolen -- but have rebuilt it up to about 500. I've also probably downloaded 1TB+ of music over the years, so I could give it a good listen before I bought anything. Not to mention the hundreds of concerts I've attended over the years....